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Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by pgsbathhouse2 on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:24PM (#22989015)
>than to have my entire financial life ruined.

You know we can just literally choose to not have this problem, instead of buying into other people's narratives.

>Not once did anyone raise any alarms about, maybe these young people shouldn't go into this line of work

Actually plenty of people do. It's just not a very thrilling subject to the U.S. populace.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by ddxxdd on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:35PM (#22989089)
>You know we can just literally choose to not have this problem, instead of buying into other people's narratives.

Try saying this after a few months of lockdown, when a severely damaged economy leads to food shortages, and printing money does nothing to help.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by dlp211 on Sunday April 26, 2020 @03:39PM (#22989578)
There is no evidence that we are headed toward food shortages. We actually have surpluses. The issue now and in the future is one of alignment and market forces.
Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by ddxxdd on Sunday April 26, 2020 @05:58PM (#22990642)
The economy cannot be modelled as a linear system; it is a pseudo-chaotic system.

If one poorly-chosen element is labelled as a "non-essential business", it can cause all the other metaphorical Jenga blocks to collapse.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by jfnixon on Sunday April 26, 2020 @11:45PM (#22992702)
Yeah, this is just like the WHO announcing "no evidence" antibodies provide some immunity. It just means no one has done a scientific study of how to collapse the food supply on a massive scale. These sorts of "everything is peachy neat keeno" claims are like Fauci saying the "risk to the US is low" back in February. There is a nontrivial risk we are headed toward food shortages. We should get back in a safer, more well understood configuration for food production and distribution.
Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by pgsbathhouse2 on Sunday April 26, 2020 @03:37PM (#22989568)
So you believe the ability to produce food, which we've historically produced too much of and let go to waste, is just going to poof into thin air because a select portion of the population doesn't have money flow.

What a ridiculous statement.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by willvarfar on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:33PM (#22989076)
> we can just literally choose to not have this problem

how can people facing financial ruin right now choose not to have it?

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by maxerickson on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:54PM (#22989245)
That clearly isn't what they mean, they are talking about society taking steps to minimize the financial harm.

The feasibility of succeeding at that is a different thing than your question.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by scottLobster on Sunday April 26, 2020 @03:54PM (#22989686)
So technically correct is the best kind of correct? The feasibility of succeeding makes the point moot, and frankly makes it sound like puerile moralizing. You might as well say, in the wake of a murder, "well your society could stop murder altogether if they decided not to kill each other".

Especially considering that we've already passed the largest economic bailout/safety net measures in world history in a matter of 3 weeks, and it looks like more is on the way. It would seem that "society" is doing its best over here given the realities of the situation, theoretical Kumbaya ideals aside.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by maxerickson on Sunday April 26, 2020 @04:08PM (#22989786)
Nothing about technically correct, just pointing out that I thought they had misread and failed to address the comment they replied to.

For a gun analogy, I go with it's like if someone said "We could choose to make it much more difficult to own a handgun" and then someone fired back with a rejoinder about that not helping the people getting shot right now. The rejoinder doesn't address the statement.

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by jabedude on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:42PM (#22989146)
>You know we can just literally choose to not have this problem, instead of buying into other people's narratives.

No, you can't. Goods and services are scarce, legislating them to every person in a country does not lead to everyone getting them.