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Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by synaesthesisx on Saturday April 25, 2020 @01:42AM (#22975885)
Most craft beers, especially those high in terpenes (dry-hopped IPAs come to mind) have flavor drop-off relatively rapidly and are best consumed fresh. Monkish, Fieldwork, Other Half, Tree House etc are some of my favorites but they’re usually bursting with flavor the first two weeks or so. “Drink Fresh”
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by robochat on Saturday April 25, 2020 @01:58AM (#22975975)
I thought that the whole point of Indian Pale Ale was that it would last longer, as in it would survive a sea voyage from England to India in the 1800s (6 months)
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by cthalupa on Saturday April 25, 2020 @02:23AM (#22976100)
It would go unspoiled, which is a bit different of a thing than tasting it's best.

Grain has quite a bit of lactic acid producing bacteria in it, on top of it's just being readily available in nature in general, so breweries naturally have a ton of it around. Most common lacto and pedio bacteria, the primary two type of LAB, is not very tolerant to hops. If you make a really hoppy beer, this naturally helps prevent the beer from souring.

Of course, a lot of beer is intentionally soured by these, and basically all beer originally would sour, and it's perfectly safe to drink. Just not desirable in every style of beer.

Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by phillc73 on Saturday April 25, 2020 @03:40AM (#22976440)
Maybe IPAs were meant to taste as they did after a long voyage to India. Maybe at the end of the voyage was when they tasted their best. Maybe the hops were just a preservative and nobody really liked drinking beer with overly strong hop flavours and aromas.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by voidfunc on Saturday April 25, 2020 @04:40AM (#22976669)
My theory is that people who like these extremely hoppy IPAs have (1) lost their ability to taste more subtle flavors, (2) are performing some kind of signalling to their fellow beer connisseur peers about how much of a beer geek they are.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by synaesthesisx on Saturday April 25, 2020 @02:12PM (#22979967)
Extremely hoppy ≠ extremely bitter. A lot of hops have floral, citrus or tropical fruit flavors and aromas. It’s why hazy IPAs have become so popular; they tend to use more of those kind of hops rather than the bittering varieties and end up juicy and balanced, rather than having overwhelming bitterness.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by cthalupa on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:49AM (#22994388)
Or, perhaps, people simply have different tastes. IPAs make up nearly 1/3rd of the dollar share of craft beer in the US - they're hardly some ultra-acquired taste that you could use to signal that you are part of the beer elite.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by Johnjonjoan on Saturday April 25, 2020 @06:02AM (#22977027)
They're just nice. People have different taste. I don't understand why you have to make theories. If I had to I'd theorise people who make theories about people who like hoppy IPAs (1) have sensitive taste buds, (2) are performing some kind of signaling.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by jessaustin on Saturday April 25, 2020 @03:38PM (#22980748)
So meta!
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by batty_alex on Saturday April 25, 2020 @04:57AM (#22976735)
To add to this, the high alcohol content typically found in IPAs helped with transportation, too.

And, if you’re not a fan of extra-hoppy ipas, letting an ipa age will mute the hoppy flavor and could potentially make a more enjoyable beer.

Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by cthalupa on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:40AM (#22994341)
I'd probably recommend people just go for a different style of beer if they don't like IPAs :)

The alpha acids in hops oxidizing will have an impact on the flavor of the beer - largely it will reinforce the malt flavor, but depending on your susceptibility to off flavors, you might get cardboard or BO type flavors.

Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by sdenton4 on Saturday April 25, 2020 @02:04AM (#22976002)
After six months it's basically Heineken, so great by 19th century standards...
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by unglaublich on Saturday April 25, 2020 @02:08AM (#22976029)
I guess 'lasting' meant, 'getting you drunk, not sick' back then. It does that just fine, also after the taste and aroma of the hops have become dull over time.
Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by ac29 on Saturday April 25, 2020 @03:35AM (#22976418)
This is true, but unfortunately most breweries still dont give a bottled/canned on date, so it can be difficult to figure this out (unless there's some secret I'm unaware of). There's at least a couple beers I buy regularly that are great within a month or so, but will be pretty nasty after being on the shelves after a few months.

The only reasonably reliable way I've found to get around this is to buy refrigerated whenever possible, and to look for "what wasnt here last week". Or buy from one of the handful of breweries that does print dates.

Re:A New Problem Is Brewing in the Beer Industry: One Millio... by grovellogic on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:57AM (#22997037)
Funny you mention Tree House. The beer seems almost impossible to get these days.