Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by Bud on Thursday April 23, 2020 @06:34PM
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A lot of accusations and allegations here, with zero specifics and zero to back any of it up. If you're as knowledgeable on this topic as you allege and seem, could you give you more information?
Which "$300 white label laptop" has equivalent thermal design to the 16" MBP?
Which "other makers" actually have "superior thermals in even thinner packages" that are "cheaper"? That sounds like bullshit to me, given what I've seen and experienced in the PC market, where loud fans that run all the time are very common.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by baybal2 on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:05PM
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Razer blade, Asus GX501, Asus GM501, Lenovo Y740S, Samsung Odysseus, 2020 Alienware M15, MSI GS65, 2020 Gigabyte Aero
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by huffmsa on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:49PM
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Can confirm, work issued MBP 13" is vastly slower and hotter than my personal Aero 15x doing the same workload.
And even when the Aero is running games or training a neural net, it's only ~70°C
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by alasdair_ on Thursday April 23, 2020 @07:43PM
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None of those laptops retail for less than $1500. The first one you listed is $3999.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by smnrchrds on Thursday April 23, 2020 @09:39PM
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A top spec 16" MPB is 6,099 USD. Does it have better thermal design? Doesn't seem so. It is an entirely valid comparison.
Re:If a MacBook Pro runs hot or shows high kernel CPU, try c...
by p1necone on Thursday April 23, 2020 @11:52PM
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baybal2 made two separate claims:
1: The thermal solutions in macbooks are comparable to some $300 laptops
2: Other companies do laptops that are just as thin and powerful as macbooks but have much better thermals.
The list they posted is 2, not 1.
Correctness of this statement is only notional.
All of their current models can have much better thermals without increasing their bulk if they actually tried to make it so. Quite number of other makers have superior thermals in even thinner packages, and, more importantly, cheaper ones.
So far, none of their recent models show a single sign of thermal engineering being being done as such. Their 16 inch model has a thermal solution I would only see in a $300 white label laptop. Yes, they added few extra millimetres to fans, but at the same time they still use the same single skinny heatpipe, and tiny radiators.
And all of that is when they have access to the best parts, and fabrication services on the market. If you look closely on their BOM, they have many surprisingly low spec parts, and very minimalistic, spartan design decision.