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Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by AnonC on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:41PM (#22925586)
I didn’t find any information about this service’s infrastructure and presence. There isn’t much information about its operations either. It seems like a single person project, which is something people shouldn’t rely on especially if it’s going to help you connect online (or don’t tell common people to rely on these).

With bigger providers like Google and Cloudflare providing free DNS and having presence around the world (to reduce latency), it’s not going to be easy to compete for others.

Recently I switched from Cloudflare to NextDNS. I like the fact that NextDNS has a closer presence in many locations (for lower latency) and also has several ad blocking lists you can subscribe to. It’s close to having a Pi-Hole on the cloud and close to having a non-customized uBlock Origin on the cloud. The web interface to customize this is easy to use. The only thing I don’t like is that it’s not a simple DNS configuration if you aren’t interested in additional protections or ad blocking lists. It requires an app for every supported platform. I don’t recall seeing a set of IP addresses published upfront by NextDNS, like how Google DNS and Cloudflare do. The pricing will be another factor to consider whenever it exits beta.

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by jccooper on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:21PM (#22926031)
NextDNS does have regular DNS servers so you don't have to have an app, though you do have to register your device IP so it's not a good option for mobile use.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by smileybarry on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:41PM (#22926280)
Well, if you have an Android device with Android 9+ you can use built-in DNS-over-TLS: https://blog.cloudflare.com/enable-private-dns-with-1-1-1-1-... It works for both Wi-Fi and LTE and it's how I use NextDNS on my Pixel.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by m-p-3 on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:37AM (#22934817)
Sadly DNS-over-TLS wasn't working for me on some networks (probably filtered or the port blocked), while DNS-over-HTTPS was passing through seamlessly.

I wish Android supported both natively.

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by milankragujevic on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:53PM (#22927055)
Wait, I've always wondered how do the custom DNS services work if your IP changes every 12/24h? And if you're begin CGNAT so you share your IP with hundreds of users?
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by tecleandor on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:23PM (#22927396)
If you have a dynamic IP and use regular DNS, NextDNS allows you to ping them on IP change (via an app or a call to their API via a simple curl)

On your cellphone, there's an App that creates a fake vpn

If you're using DNS over HTTP or TLS, you can add an identifier to your requests, so NextDNS knows who you are even when you change IP addresses or you are behind a NAT or CGNAT.

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by milankragujevic on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:32PM (#22927496)
Ah, nice. I didn't realize DDNS-like client apps can be used to maintain DNS client profile info with a regularly updating IP address. Cool!
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by AnonC on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:25AM (#22933067)
Check out the NextDNS FAQ [1] and navigate to the question titled “What is Linked IP?”

[1]: https://nextdns.io/faq

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by m-p-3 on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:38AM (#22934837)
I tied my hostname to my NextDNS account, so that was quite easy to manage as I already keep that one up-to-date through DNS-O-Matic on my router.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by jccooper on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:34PM (#22927526)
You have to ping it from your machine periodically so it can pick up the new IP, either manually or automatically, or you can use existing dynamic DNS. As for really wide NAT... dunno. May just be incompatible if there's more than one user in your block.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by ThePowerOfFuet on Monday April 20, 2020 @06:55PM (#22929755)
You can give them your dynamic CNAME and they can follow you.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by dbliss on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:59PM (#22926504)
Nextdns does have published DNS ips:

45.90.28.245 45.90.30.245

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by AnonC on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:18AM (#22933042)
Thank you. I didn’t find it published prominently, like it is with Google DNS, Cloudflare DNS and Quad9 DNS. The choice of this address is a huge contrast to the others I mentioned, where those are very easy to remember.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by als0 on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:51AM (#22924974)
What's the reason for the shutdown? Not enough donations? Too many/few users?
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by exikyut on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:02PM (#22925812)
The bit about "No logs are kept regarding DNS related traffic, nor will I turn any over." leapt out at me, but I honestly have no idea.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by pstuart on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:34PM (#22926197)
Perhaps the canary died.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by rurban on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:58PM (#22927107)
Or it got too expensive. Both good possibilities
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by notRobot on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:18PM (#22925320)
A real pity. Users can check out https://nextdns.io for a feature-complete alternative. I've had a great experience with them.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by bjoli on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:45PM (#22928328)
I tried it. it is a bit like pi-hole as a service. very nice, and very full featured. I have started noticing more apps using their own DNS servers though. in my home lan I get a lot of blocked requests to 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 which are my primary DNS, but only coming from my pi-hole.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by egberts1 on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:57PM (#22927101)
I maintain a small list of DNSSEC providers that I’ve validated as secured enough. But most of you gateway hobbyist would need to use Bind 9.16+ to securely relay your DNS queries.

https://egbert.net/blog/articles/public-nameservers-with-dns...

Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by daneel_w on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:13PM (#22927990)
Unbound, which is a lot easier to configure, is also a good alternative: https://nlnetlabs.nl/projects/unbound/about/
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by daneel_w on Monday April 20, 2020 @02:15PM (#22926670)
That's a shame. I've been using his great service for two years now. For rotation I also use https://blog.uncensoreddns.org/ which may be a suitable replacement for anyone else also using SecureDNS.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by ollo on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:35PM (#22927533)
I see a lot of comments mentioning NextDNS. How is it compared to OpenDNS?
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by AnonC on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @04:30AM (#22933096)
OpenDNS was bought by Cisco in 2015. The website looks very different from how it used to be before that, and seems to be targeted at enterprises. It seems like one would have to dig in deep to find the erstwhile service and management of filters that it had offered.
Re:SecureDNS will shutdown on 30th of April 2020 by m-p-3 on Tuesday April 21, 2020 @09:40AM (#22934855)
So far I like it, it's been a great supplement to uBlock Origin and it was easy to setup.