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Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by yumraj on Sunday April 19, 2020 @11:20PM (#22920846)
Back in India milk used to be delivered by milkmen everyday. It was unpasteurized, so my mom would boil it and let it cool before consumption, which left a thick slice of cream on top of it.

It was collected, and after several weeks worth had accumulated, yogurt was used to ferment it for a few days and then churned to make white homemade butter. It tasted divine with a little salt and pepper on bread.

Of course, a lot of that butter was used to make Ghee, whose delicious smell permeated the whole home.

And the brown leftover,after making ghee, milk solids tasted amazing with a little sugar.

Ah, the memories...

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by harikb on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:04AM (#22921011)
Memories... yes, indeed. We had one step further. We had our own cow (just one). Although the effort involved from feeding the cow (that didn’t necessarily yield much milk compare to those special breeds), milking it at 6am, collecting cream over many days was eye opening to me. I used to help churn the butter with the wooden thingy meant for it. Yes, the butter tasted amazing, partly because we felt it had to, for all the hard work gone in to it :)
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by yumraj on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:01AM (#22921250)
Yes, churning with the wooden thingy is not fun :). I think we had a hand mixer that was mostly used for that which made life a little easy.

The only product/by-product I never liked was the buttermilk left over after churning the butter, but I guess that is an acquired taste.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by Symbiote on Monday April 20, 2020 @07:15AM (#22922865)
> wooden thingy

I'm surprised there isn't a unique name for that.

"The staff used in the churn is known as the dash, dasher-staff, churn-staff, churning-stick, plunger, plumper, or kirn-staff."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butter_churn#Types_of_butter_c...

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by kortilla on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:16AM (#22921845)
> buttermilk left over after churning the butter, but I guess that is an acquired taste.

My dad drinks the stuff as a special treat. It just smells like sour milk to me...

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by Cthulhu_ on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:40AM (#22922194)
It is, but it makes it a fresh flavor, very low-calorie. I mean yoghurt is sour too, it's not necessarily a bad thing. I drink it straight, my girlfriend uses it to bake muffins, and you can let chicken soak in it for a couple hours; if you cook it afterwards the chicken ends up deliciously tender (the enzymes in buttermilk break the chicken down a bit).
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by steve_adams_86 on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:26PM (#22925418)
This was one of my favourite discoveries. The way it tenderizes chicken is really nice; some other methods don't feel quite right. Other enzymes I've tried have seemed to tenderize too much and perhaps in overly-localized areas at times. Maybe it's user error. Buttermilk gives you a nice, mild, consistent result though and it couldn't be much easier.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by yumraj on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:54PM (#22925723)
> the enzymes in buttermilk break the chicken down a bit

Am curious, is it the enzymes or the acidity? yogurt also tenderizes meat, but I always thought it was the mild acidity that does that, similar to how vinegar can also tenderize meats.

Not that it matters, as long as the job is done :)

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by waste_monk on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:28AM (#22921890)
I haven't tried it raw, but buttermilk icecream is delicious and lately I have noticed a trend towards things like buttermilk-fried chickenburgers and similar foods, I've been meaning to try one.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by empath75 on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:59AM (#22922040)
Buttermilk you buy in the store bears little relation to the buttermilk you get from churning butter.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by jacobr1 on Monday April 20, 2020 @10:50AM (#22924265)
And is also a different product in the US vs EU.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by phonypc on Monday April 20, 2020 @11:22AM (#22924633)
Same difference, isn't it? In the EU buttermilk usually refers to the by-product of butter making. In the US and Canada it's commercially produced cultured milk.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by mywittyname on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:43PM (#22925592)
I don't think the buttermilk ice cream is made from teh same buttermilk that the OP is referring to. The milk leftover from the churning of butter is a kind of tangy skim milk and it can't be used to make ice cream because all of the fat has been removed to make the butter.

The buttermilk you buy in the store is basically fermented milk. It has a totally different flavor and texture. It is also delicious and you should totally make fried chickenburgers with it. You should also make biscuits, pancakes, cornbread, etc with it (assuming you eat those things) because buttermilk has an amazing flavor that's really unlike anything else.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by masonic on Monday April 20, 2020 @07:09PM (#22929885)
"I'm partial to cold buttermilk."

Mattie in "True Grit", after declining coffee

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by jp0d on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:15AM (#22922104)
I grew up eating that. And yes I did savour the the brown residue with roti/paratha, enhanced with a bit of sugar. That's why I can never eat margarine. I do my best to buy the best quality butter from the supermarkets here in Melbourne, Australia. But that rich taste of the homemade stuff is hard to reproduce on an industrial scale, I reckon! On the other hand, I don't miss the Yoghurt from back home. I much prefer the Greek Yoghurt I get here! :)
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by yumraj on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:46PM (#22925624)
In the US we were able to get a good yogurt culture from someone and now make it ourselves. Tastes just like from back home.

Next time you visit India, or where you're from, try to dry some yogurt and use that as the culture. I have a feeling that that might work.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by jp0d on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:31AM (#22964662)
That's the thing. I never liked the yoghurt back home. :D I like the Greek Youghurt here a lot. But, I did enjoy Lassi. I'm from Orissa.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by cylinder on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:30AM (#22922391)
what is the best local butter you've found here in melb?
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by jp0d on Friday April 24, 2020 @12:32AM (#22964666)
I don't know about the best. But I usually get either Devondale or Mainland I think. It'd be interesting to get butter produced in the local Victorian farms. :) Any suggestions where to get better butter?
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by rishabhd on Monday April 20, 2020 @01:57AM (#22921519)
I came back to my hometown due to this lockdown and had the pleasure of having homemade butter again. Good heavens, it was peak gourmet if there is anything like it. The best part : I learnt how to make it.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by searchableguy on Sunday April 19, 2020 @11:58PM (#22920986)
Isn't the smell of ghee (especially when making at home) too strong?

I remember someone in the house making it and I couldn't breathe in the kitchen when it was there.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by osrec on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:32AM (#22922172)
I'm Indian, and I can confirm that I do not like the smell of ghee, and neither do my siblings.

In fact, if food has too much ghee in it, it can make us want to throw up! We seem to have no problem with butter itself, but the smell of ghee is just too difficult to stomach for us.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by danielheath on Monday April 20, 2020 @08:38AM (#22923315)
Thanks for clarifying :)
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by mauvehaus on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:27AM (#22923623)
Pun intended?
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by osrec on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:52AM (#22923790)
LOL, I see what you did there :P
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by calvinbhai on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:49PM (#22927710)
I don't like the smell when butter is turned into ghee.

But I love ghee. In fact, after a short stint on a Keto diet, looking at the results, I now understand why ghee is essential in every meal! It makes you consume less carbs.

Because of industry propaganda blaming food fat, we have been used to low fat foods. A spoonful of ghee in every meal is not bad. You just need to get used to it.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by osrec on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:15PM (#22928655)
My grandfather loved ghee, and I'm sure it contributed to his good health in old age. As a youngster, he could even drink a cup of ghee neat!

For some reason, that same love has not been inherited by his son (my father) or his grandchildren. Strangely, however, we shared very similar tastes in everything else!

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by jedimastert on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:03AM (#22921004)
As I understand it, there are a lot of strong smells (comparatively speaking) in an Indian kitchen
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by searchableguy on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:11AM (#22921034)
Even for me as an indian, it's a very strong smell.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by balls187 on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:18PM (#22925321)
Growing up with it doesn't always make it tolerable.

My parents never made ghee (they're ethnic tamils from Malaysia), but good lord frying fish, or making fermented shrimp paste...yuck.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by yumraj on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:30AM (#22921100)
it's a strong smell, but I guess you love the smells you grow with.

Even now sometimes I make Ghee at home with store bought organic butter, as it's difficult to find organic ghee. Unfortunately it doesn't smell the same.

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by varshithr on Monday April 20, 2020 @04:07AM (#22922074)
We still do that. This exact same process.
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by guru4consulting on Monday April 20, 2020 @09:39PM (#22930982)
you described exactly my childhood experience.. definitely a wonderful memory to cherish
Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by 0xff00ffee on Monday April 20, 2020 @10:41AM (#22924183)
> And the brown leftover,after making ghee, milk solids tasted amazing with a little sugar.

Wait, what? I love ghee but have never made it. Are you saying there's something even tastier to be found in the process of making it???

Re:Is the world's best butter worth 50 dollars a pound? (2017) by logfromblammo on Monday April 20, 2020 @12:45PM (#22925622)
Yes. Butter solids taste a bit like baked/toasted cheese. Highly recommended.