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Re:Google Apple Contact Tracing (GACT): a wolf in sheep’s cl... by pmlnr on Sunday April 19, 2020 @09:19AM (#22915693)
> resistance to the smartphone (or even the computer) become required to live as anything but a homeless vagrant

Yeah. Because they can run out of power, they are easily damaged, and, generally, bug and exploit ridden.

A bank card is near indestructible.

Re:Google Apple Contact Tracing (GACT): a wolf in sheep’s cl... by arsenico on Sunday April 19, 2020 @09:57AM (#22915933)
Do you know the size of fraud departments at banks and payment providers, and the budgets going into fraud prevention every year? A bank card is as easily destructible as a smartphone is, but is far less secure, as we're sacrificing security for usability.
Re:Google Apple Contact Tracing (GACT): a wolf in sheep’s cl... by gruez on Sunday April 19, 2020 @10:09AM (#22916003)
If we're comparing smartphone vs bank cards, it's only fair to presume that the bank cards are equipped with EMV, because magstripe terminals won't be able to accept smartphone either. In that case, I fail to see any security advantage over smartphones.
Re:Google Apple Contact Tracing (GACT): a wolf in sheep’s cl... by joshuamorton on Sunday April 19, 2020 @02:24PM (#22917750)
Magstripe terminals can accept smartphone generated pins with a software update, you just enter the (OTP) pin manually.

I've seen this used at Wells Fargo ATMs.

Re:Google Apple Contact Tracing (GACT): a wolf in sheep’s cl... by pmlnr on Monday April 20, 2020 @03:23PM (#22927385)
Read more on MPCOS-EMV.

Modern cards disable the magnetic stripe, and the chip is surprisingly secure.