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Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by jbob2000 on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:13PM (#22909189)
Can I get some clarity on the types of data they extract?

Looking at blinking LEDs tells me that the HDD is on and processing something, yes, but it doesn’t tell me the digits of the credit card number it’s processing (for example).

Do they researchers track the value of the information they “steal”? Or is any data at all valuable?

Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by jlg23 on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:17PM (#22909225)
If you control the blinking of the led you have established a very low bandwidth communication channel.
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by jbob2000 on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:25PM (#22909296)
Ohhh I misunderstood; I thought they were stealing data by simply observing the blinking LED, not that they had infiltrated the computer and were controlling the LED.
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by hutzlibu on Saturday April 18, 2020 @09:28PM (#22912690)
Allmost (or all?) of those attacks are only possible, if the target computer is infected. And the scenario is that the virus wants to send data out, to a nearby decice which is also infected.
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by skykooler on Saturday April 18, 2020 @09:42PM (#22912755)
Which is why this is "exfiltration", not "infiltration".
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by na85 on Saturday April 18, 2020 @02:35PM (#22909983)
The term "exfiltrate" implies that the data is being "pushed" or otherwise sent outward from the machine, as opposed to being harvested from the outside.
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by fbi-director on Saturday April 18, 2020 @09:11PM (#22912601)
Thank you, because you wrote this, I too now understand what they meant. My train of thought was apparently on the same track as yours!
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by mlazos on Saturday April 18, 2020 @03:10PM (#22910251)
Basically the idea is that air gapped is still not secure. If someone plugs in a foreign flash drive into a computer that is air gapped one would think the data can’t leave the secure machine. With these methods though, it’s clear that any hardware observable to the outside world can be used to exfiltrate data
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by makapuf on Sunday April 19, 2020 @03:44AM (#22914265)
Well, I think anyone could have thought of the screen or speakers or, well the usb you achieved to plug to get data out of a computer. You have no network but I doubt you can consider airgapped a pc you just plugged a usb device into. Why not plug a mini wifi chip then ?
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by ken on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:16PM (#22909210)
"Guri's research doesn't look at ways of compromising and planting malware on these super-secure systems" ... "malicious code planted on an air-gapped system can control the speed at which fans work"
Re:Academics steal data from air-gapped systems using PC fan... by WoahNoun on Saturday April 18, 2020 @01:33PM (#22909379)
It's about how to get data out once you've already compromised the machine. You control the blinking of the LED to match match the data you want to capture out.