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Re:The Decline of Usability by strken on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:33PM (#22902218)
One nice thing about recent Ubuntu is that even though they hide the password box, you can start typing on the unlock screen and your text will be entered into the password box.
Re:The Decline of Usability by saagarjha on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:35PM (#22902230)
Why hide the password box, then, unless you think that users learning to type and have magically it go somewhere invisible is a good UI design…

(Interesting aside: I complained to someone on the Mac Safari team that it was difficult to search open tabs, and he told me that apparently this feature already exists! You go into the tab overview, and…just start typing. A little search bar will pop into appearance in the top right corner. Why it couldn't just be there and have keyboard focus from the start, I have no idea…)

Re:The Decline of Usability by Jtsummers on Friday April 17, 2020 @03:38PM (#22902248)
Worse, this creates a bad habit. What if the UI changes and now it's the username that pops up first, not a password box?

So it's a hard-to-discover feature, and a misfeature unless you elect to keep this behavior forever.

Re:The Decline of Usability by Spivak on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:48PM (#22905170)
Because this only happens on the lock screen when there's no user to be entered/selected. There's no slide-up on the initial login.
Re:The Decline of Usability by TheKarateKid on Saturday April 18, 2020 @03:34AM (#22905998)
Wow, I would’ve never guessed that. Apple has a terrible habit of burying obscure UX features.

It’s a shame really because these undocumented features mean 99% of people WON’T ever use them. Isn’t that counterproductive to engineers?

Why aren’t employees speaking out against this?

Re:The Decline of Usability by wmf on Friday April 17, 2020 @07:11PM (#22903864)
macOS hides the password field to encourage people to use Touch ID instead, but Ubuntu probably doesn't even support fingerprint login...
Re:The Decline of Usability by Spivak on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:51PM (#22905180)
Every mainstream Linux distro supports fingerprint login natively just by virtue of using PAM.
Re:The Decline of Usability by saagarjha on Saturday April 18, 2020 @12:57AM (#22905431)
Funnily enough, so does every Mac by virtue of using PAM ;)
Re:The Decline of Usability by ajosh on Friday April 17, 2020 @10:06PM (#22904763)
Ubuntu does support fingerprint login if you have supported hardware.
Re:The Decline of Usability by jjoonathan on Friday April 17, 2020 @04:23PM (#22902619)
Unless slack steals the focus. Happened to me a few weeks back. Then slack gets your password and enter key, and the login screen doesn't.
Re:The Decline of Usability by Spivak on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:52PM (#22905188)
The irony being that there's a vocal group of GNOME users complain that newer versions full-stop prevent windows from taking focus and install an extension to being the behavior back.

Can't please everyone I suppose.

Re:The Decline of Usability by zzo38computer on Friday April 17, 2020 @11:54PM (#22905197)
It wouldn't be a problem if it is an option which can be configured, I think.
Re:The Decline of Usability by DDR0 on Friday April 17, 2020 @05:23PM (#22903096)
Steam remote streaming did something similar, while on the road with my laptop it presented me with my Kubuntu login screen... so I logged in, fine... and now my computer at home is sitting unlocked and unsecured.