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Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by kennywinker on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:13PM (#22900894)
Calling work email a "resource" seems a little dubious to me. I.e. if I use office stationary to write my union manifesto, they have to buy more stationary. If I send an email they don't have to buy more of anything.

Especially in the world we live in right now - email and other work-hosted communications platforms are not a resource provided by work, they are the WORKPLACE.

Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by SpicyLemonZest on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:23PM (#22901000)
It does seem dubious, but I can see the argument that the government shouldn't be adjudicating which work resources are or aren't costly to allow. (Internal phone calls don't cost anything either, but I think it's fair to say union organizers shouldn't be allowed to ring up all the desk phones in an office asking them to support some labor action.)
Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by kennywinker on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:50PM (#22901245)
That scenario is covered by the fact that organizing on company TIME is not allowed.

I think I disagree. This is exactly the role of the government to adjudicate. I would suggest a standard something like "everything is allowed, unless the company can prove significant harm". So instead of the gov saying "email is ok!" you just get to use email, and then the company has to go to the gov and prove that you using email is a drain on their resources in order to fire you.

Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by benbenolson on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:27PM (#22901040)
Email servers, electricity, the time spent setting it all up, the server room that stores the machines, the IT department that maintains the machines and keeps things running, the client hardware that the employee interacts with...
Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by kennywinker on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:52PM (#22901265)
You're explicitly allowed to put up signs in the break room, and the cost of the break room existing is DEFINITELY non-zero. Explain to me how those things are different? Email is the workplace.
Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by tantalor on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:43PM (#22901182)
The marginal cost of everything you mentioned is zero per email.
Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by michaelsitver on Friday April 17, 2020 @01:53PM (#22901274)
Essentialy zero isn't Zero at Amazon scale (or the scale of any large business)
Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by kennywinker on Friday April 17, 2020 @02:12PM (#22901414)
Does an email server processing n emails per second require more power to process n+1 emails per second? My suspicion is that unless that +1 hits some capacity limit, the number of emails we're talking about required to organize union activities would be undetectable.

That said, even if it is detectible, I think that employees should be allowed to drain some small amount of a company's resources to organize. I am allowed to use company resources for emails like "who wants to go for beers after work?" why should I not be allowed to send "who wants to go organize collective action after work?"

Re:Amazon employees plan ‘online walkout’ to protest treatme... by Talanes on Friday April 17, 2020 @02:26PM (#22901537)
There's still some drain from resources spent monitoring and stopping it. Even though you're already monitoring, you just end up with two cancelling out "essentially zeros."