Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by zrm on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:18PM
(#22890889)
At the turbo clock the i9-10900F is 5GHz vs. 4.3Ghz for Ryzen 9 4900HS. At the base clock the i9-10900F is 2.8GHz vs. 3GHz for the Ryzen 9 4900HS.
Basically implies that Ryzen has better performance per watt, which doesn't affect absolute performance until you exhaust the power budget and have to lower the clock speed, i.e. use all the cores instead of just one.
edit: 4900HS, not 4900H
Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by kllrnohj on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:30PM
(#22891616)
Small nit but the comparison here is against the 4900HS
4900H: 4.4ghz boost, 3.3ghz base
4900HS: 4.3ghz boost, 3.0ghz base
With the non-S variant being the more power hungry one with an up to 54W TDP vs. the S's 35W TDP.
Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by zrm on Thursday April 16, 2020 @04:48PM
(#22893387)
Interestingly even the faster 4900H has a lower TDP than the 65W i9-10900F.
Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by throwaway2048 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:19PM
(#22890904)
Multithreaded applications tend to share a lot of data between threads, and we already know Intel's mesh fabric core interconnect[1] seems to be inferior to AMD's chiplet+io die in terms of performance and access latency uniformity.
[1] used in all 10core+ Intel CPUs.
Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by lliamander on Thursday April 16, 2020 @06:55PM
(#22894417)
AMD's 4000 APUs are monolithic and don't use separate chiplets and IO die. The chiplet + infinity fabric has higher latency than Intel, but that's not a problem for the APUs.
Re:10-core i9-10900F desktop CPU lags behind 8-core Ryzen 9 ...
by wmf on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:54PM
(#22891832)
The 10900 uses a ring and IMO the mesh is superior to Infinity Fabric.
Likely some thread affinity issue that just needs a patch.