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Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by philliphaydon on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:34AM (#22886090)
It’s not racist. Calling it Chinese Virus is racist. china called it wuhan virus. And most of Asia continues to call it Wuhan Virus.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by busymom0 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:41AM (#22886474)
Calling it Chinese Virus is not racist either. Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome, German Measles, Japanese Virus, Japanese Encephalitis, Russian Flu are all named after countries. Also "China" is not a race, it's a country.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by philliphaydon on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:53AM (#22886533)
(comment is reply to burfog too)

I would agree if the original name was China/Chinese Virus. The problem is that, that particular naming is targeted at china because they were being twats by making rumors/propaganda blaming America.

So I feel that the people using that name are using it as a middle finger, which I don't agree with. That doesn't make the words itself racist, but the usage of it racist.

I hope that makes sense?!?

Wuhan is just the place of origin and no one battered an eyelid to it when it was first named Wuhan Virus or Wu Flu. I've never seen it used negatively.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by _-___________-_ on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:04AM (#22886588)
The usage of it still isn't really racist, because China is not a race, but rather a country made up of people of many races. I agree that "China/Chinese Virus" is often being used with bad intentions.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by burfog on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:29AM (#22886407)
Calling it Chinese Virus is not racist either. China is not a race.

I never head anybody calling it "Chinese Virus" until right after Chinese officials were found to be spreading rumors that the virus came from a US military operation. When those rumors started, the Chinese ambassador to the US was called in to get a scolding and the president immediately started using "Chinese Virus" very purposely.

In other words, it's simply the mildest justified revenge, without even a claim that anything was intentional.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by trickstra on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:34AM (#22886758)
That may have been true before the scientists agreed on a proper name. Now it has one, so calling it Wuhan virus or Chinese virus is inappropriate. The virus now mostly resides in the US and has already mutated so there is a European variant and US variant.

Also, I'm now in Asia and everybody around me calls it COVID or Corona.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by proc0 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @03:00AM (#22886878)
Not only is China not a race, ironically you're defending the one place where there currently is guaranteed racism.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by JamesG124 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:50AM (#22886174)
> most of Asia continues to call it Wuhan Virus

Do you have a source for this?

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by philliphaydon on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:17AM (#22886324)
I'm not about to go searching, I'm watching WION on youtube at the moment which is a (new, 2015) news outlet in India which often refers to it as Wuhan Virus, but if I posted anything that wasn't CNN or NYT or such I'll prob just get downvoted with comments saying "oh thats fake news" or "thats not a creditable because we don't have it here in America".

To be clear when I say "most of asia" I don't mean, every country, and every news outlet. But that it's not uncommon.

I've seen news in Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, all refer to it as Wuhan Virus.

Singapore (where I live) I don't recall seeing it referred to as Wuhan Virus since maybe mid-march.

In any case if someone refers to it as Chinese/China Virus, I completely agree that it's racist. But Wuhan is the origin, and the original name given. Renaming has probably only hurt china more as people are very angry with the WHO and ccp.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by tasogare on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:14AM (#22886303)
It’s called "Wuhan pneumonia" (武漢肺炎) in Mandarin in Taiwan and in Cantonese in Hong-Kong. https://zh-yue.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/武漢肺炎大爆發
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by drewmol on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:07AM (#22886259)
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by Xeronate on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:16AM (#22886323)
SARS-CoV-2 is pretty specific. Comparing with covid-19 seems more reasonable. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Wuhan%20virus,cov...
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by alharith on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:03AM (#22886238)
Do you have access to the world's most powerful search engine that can locate almost any source for you in an instant?
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by mirimir on Thursday April 16, 2020 @01:33AM (#22886429)
I don't know. If you mean Google, it's been lobotomized over the past decade.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by Kiro on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:10AM (#22886623)
We don't name viruses after geographic locations anymore to avoid stigmatization. I don't know why you all wants to hold on to such an unnecessary practice, especially when so many viruses and diseases were named based on an incorrect origin.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by busymom0 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:22AM (#22886687)
rational stigmatization isn't a bad thing.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by trickstra on Thursday April 16, 2020 @02:40AM (#22886795)
There is no such thing as "rational stigmatization". That would be an oxymoron.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by busymom0 on Friday April 17, 2020 @08:38PM (#22904333)
Dictionary defines "stigma" as:

> "a mark of disgrace associated with a particular circumstance, quality, or person."

and gives the following example

> "the stigma of having gone to prison will always be with me"

This is an example of rational stigma. For example if you know someone who went to prison for robbery, they would have a rational stigma associated with them when they try to apply for a job at a bank. Not an oxymoron.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by trickstra on Saturday April 18, 2020 @12:08AM (#22905248)
Denying jobs to recovered convicts is a very contested topic. That stigma turns into an irrational and easily disproved belief that a convict can never really recover and start leading a normal life. Such stigma then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Stigmatization is the act of creating stigmas. Maintaining them. And that is very clearly not rational. To be rational, you'd re-evaluate the person from the ground up before each event. Sure, being in prison would still be a factor, one of many. But stigma assumes that this factor alone defines the whole outcome, which is irrational.

Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by busymom0 on Saturday April 18, 2020 @04:21AM (#22906177)
I feel like you are talking about it from a political correctness point of view. A bank denying a job to a convicted robber is 100% justified and saying that's somehow not rational is just silly.
Re:China to ban online gaming, in-game chat with foreigners ... by trickstra on Sunday April 19, 2020 @01:07AM (#22913667)
I'm talking from pure logic point. Denying a job to a convict (as a rule) is based on the assumption that it's absolutely impossible for a convict to recover and start leading a normal life. It is based on a 0% probability of that happening. And that's quite clearly not the case.