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Re:New iPhone SE by samatman on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:42PM (#22882122)
If you happen to be male (and I'd wager 95% of people who are tall enough to complain about airline seats are), then you have a distinct and inherent advantage when it comes to sexual attraction.

This applies whether you're homosexual, heterosexual, or both.

Oh, and statistically you make more money as well. But you're less comfortable on airplanes, and Asian minibuses, so it's impossible to know if it's a net benefit or not...

Re:New iPhone SE by def8cefe on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:42PM (#22882782)
>Oh, and statistically you make more money as well. But you're less comfortable on airplanes, and Asian minibuses, so it's impossible to know if it's a net benefit or not...

Don't forget shorter lifespans, back issues, discomfort in most vehicles, difficulty finding clothes furniture and bedding (unless you're well off) and instant contempt from any male shorter than 5'9".

Re:New iPhone SE by ashwoods on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:03PM (#22883044)
And washing the dishes is also uncomfortable and always get wet unless you squat all the time. :)
Re:New iPhone SE by samatman on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:48PM (#22883486)
I'm above the 95th percentile in male height, and have never experienced contempt from short men. Must be friendly.

I'm also below the 99th percentile, which is where most of what you describe starts to kick in.

Lucky me, I guess. I do have to put up with my knees pressing into the back of airplane seats...

Re:New iPhone SE by def8cefe on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:42PM (#22883996)
I'm 99th percentile, 6'6". If I had to pick a height it would be 6'4".

There are certainly benefits, but most people ignore the drawbacks when discussing height. I like to put it in perspective for shorter men who feel unlucky as well.

The argument about attraction makes no sense to me either. People reporting they like tall people also care about other traits. If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love.

Let's not even get into the advanced math required to find positions that work with an average sized partner.

Re:New iPhone SE by TheOperator on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:35PM (#22885493)
> If you find a partner who fetishises you just for your height you really haven't gained anything, it's still just as hard to find actual love.

Truly... it's similar to how a dashingly handsome hollywood heartthrob has no real advantages over somebody who looks like Quasimodo with smallpox.

The former has to wonder if their beautiful successful wife decided to have the family he always wanted with him because she loves them or if they only did it because he's a sexual object.

Whereas the latter may face personal and professional consequences for making the exact same advances the former would be rewarded for and thus is prone to self-isolation for fear of societal reprimand. He gets to live in a wonderful world of woke cynicism.

Re:New iPhone SE by samatman on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @08:07PM (#22884666)
Yeah, 6'4" is probably the sweet spot. I'm a bit short of glory there, but I'm not complaining.

Fetishizing height might be more of an issue at your lofty stature, along with the thin air and whatnot. It's not what I'm talking about. Height is like facial symmetry, there aren't any downsides (talking about 90-98% here) and it just means more occasions when your crush crushes back. At the margins, this is a plus.

Everyone makes up for their deficits by playing to their strengths. It's important to acknowledge which is which.

Worth noting that sexual attraction isn't the only place this comes up, there's robust evidence that everyone, male, female, and otherwise, considers taller men to be more trustworthy(!), better leaders, and the list goes on. It's deeply unfair of course, but it is what it is.

Re:New iPhone SE by bluntfang on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:01PM (#22883024)
There are all things out of our control. I can't control other people's attraction. I can't control someone hiring me or paying me more because I'm tall, hell you can't really even measure that on an individual level. These are basically genie rules, right? No love/attraction.

Want to know what is in our control? not charging extra money in order for someone to not hurt themselves on an airplane because they fall outside the bounds of average.

Re:New iPhone SE by samatman on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:51PM (#22883514)
The problem is that everyone wants that extra leg room, not just the exceptionally tall.

Reserving the good seats for the height-advantaged is discrimination against short people, who are already discriminated against for personal characteristics beyond their control.

Suck it up and pay extra.

Re:New iPhone SE by hatboat on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @06:28PM (#22883858)
This is a disingenuous take. There's a big difference between a shorter person wanting extra leg room because it's nice to have, and someone being in actual physical pain because they couldn't afford / weren't quick enough to get one of the few seats they can actually fit in.
Re:New iPhone SE by samatman on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @07:59PM (#22884621)
It's not.

There's no such thing as fair allocation of a scarce resource. Offering it at a surcharge is, in my not-disingenuous opinion, the least unfair option for this particular one.

Outright reserving it for tall people is discrimination against the short. There are other reasons someone might want the emergency row which are just as legitimate, knee surgery leaps to mind. Should we make a comprehensive list? How do we determine if someone is just lying to get the premium leg room?

I'm open to the argument that the federal government should mandate a larger minimum seat distance. But then, I'm not poor.

As I said, there's no fair way to allocate a scare resource, only degrees of unfairness.

Re:New iPhone SE by Dylan16807 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @12:09PM (#22890803)
A surcharge would be appropriate if it was proportional to the space used.

But you're completely wrong on the "discrimination against the short" front. Imagine if everyone that can easily walk demanded a wheelchair and cried discrimination if they didn't get one.

Re:New iPhone SE by avani on Thursday April 16, 2020 @06:45PM (#22894339)
This actually happens. Ask your flight attendant friends about “miracle cures” walking off their flights after using wheelchairs to board.
Re:New iPhone SE by Dylan16807 on Thursday April 16, 2020 @08:41PM (#22895115)
They don't openly admit to not needing one at all, while still demanding one, do they? And if they did, they'd be obviously wrong to cry discrimination, right?
Re:New iPhone SE by bluntfang on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:01PM (#22885341)
>the least unfair option for this particular one.

Nah dude, the least unfair option is to make sure everyone isn't in pain. After that, charge money, do whatever...but your option to literally hurt people for the way they were born sucks and breeds contempt.