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Re:New iPhone SE by leokennis on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:08PM (#22881756)
Might be that some people still remember the Bluetooth from 2010 or so.

These days, I charge my wireless headphones once a week. When I turn them on, they are connected before I have opened the music app. The connection is stable. When I stop playing sound on my phone and start sound on my laptop, they automatically switch to that. Their microphone is perfectly fine for calling people.

Re:New iPhone SE by qchris on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:34PM (#22882034)
I'm sorry, but I don't think this is the case, at least not for me. I actually own a pair of Bluetooth earphones, which I use at the gym. They do well, I don't have to worry about the cable or accidentally hitting the phone in my pocket when picking up weights. They have a reliable connection, sound is decent.

But I have hundreds of dollars invested in good-quality wired headphones, plus wired earbuds, and I want to be able to use those with my phone without needing to re-spend that money. Plus, regardless of quality of the product, I'm occasionally a forgetful human. I've actually run out of juice mid-workout with my wireless set. Instead of not having music for the rest of my workout (I like music!), I simply walked over to my bag, pulled out my wired earbuds, and finished up.

Not having the ability to do that is a deal-breaker for me on a phone, and it's not something that can be fixed by improving the Bluetooth tech. While this is obviously anecdotal, I don't imagine I'm the only person who feels this way.

Re:New iPhone SE by robotresearcher on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:12PM (#22882469)
> Not having the ability to do that is a deal-breaker for me

The dongle is small enough to leave attached to your headphones and costs $9. It would be wasteful to include one with the phone, as most would be unused. Clearly you'd prefer a built-in jack, but you have a cheapish option to add this ability.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMX62AM/A/lightning-to-35...

Re:New iPhone SE by drusepth on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:34PM (#22882700)
Saying you can leave a 3.5-to-lightning adapter attached to your headphones assumes that all of your other devices can do audio over lightning also. Realistically, it seems like you'd add or remove the dongle based on what devices you're attaching to, so you probably wouldn't want to actually leave it attached to your headphones.
Re:New iPhone SE by Fredej on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:29PM (#22883291)
That was my thinking as well. I honestly hated the lack of headphone jack.

After getting an iPhone XS from work - replacing my iPhone 5 - I found that I would actually just leave the adapter on my headset. If I ever used the headset for anything else I would take it off but immediately replug it after being done.

My conclusion is that it's been waaaaay less of an issue that I honestly expected it to be.

Re:New iPhone SE by mantap on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @10:12PM (#22885392)
Seems what is needed is inverted Y adapter, with two inputs and one output and a switch.
Re:New iPhone SE by ryanlol on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:52PM (#22882242)
> But I have hundreds of dollars invested in good-quality wired headphones, plus wired earbuds, and I want to be able to use those with my phone without needing to re-spend that money.

Why not just swap in a wireless cable?

Re:New iPhone SE by kmmlng on Thursday April 16, 2020 @11:04AM (#22890101)
In my experience with a fairly recent and expensive set of bluetooth headphones (Sennheiser Momentum 3), it works well most of the time, but in 5% of cases it does not. If you use your headphones a lot, those 5% get annoying very quickly.

Some issues I've noticed:

- My tv (flagship LG OLED) always has trouble connecting to the headphones. I usually have to turn them off and then back on again at least once. Macbook and iPhone rarely have trouble connecting. Connecting on Windows has always worked so far.

- When I'm connected to both my Windows laptop and my phone, in a skype conference on the laptop and get a call on my phone, the skype conference is automatically terminated. FOR ALL PARTICIPANTS. That's insane.

- To make the previous point even worse: except for the ringtone, the audio from incoming calls never even goes to the bluetooth headphones. The audio from outgoing calls does, however. This is all on an iPhone SE.

- Sometimes when I listen to music, or watch a video on a Windows machine, my bluetooth headphones will just pause the playback every couple of seconds. This only happens on Windows.

- If your headphones are connected to multiple devices, you have absolutely zero control over what is happening. You might be listening to music on your phone, but some notification from your computer will interrupt your playback even though the computer is set to silent.

I could go on and on and I've only been using bluetooth headphones for a month. There is a LOT of polish missing here. That being said, this could be a great technology and it's not too far off at the moment. There certainly are some advantages over wired headphones as well.