Re:Gnome Shell UX Plans
by esarbe on Thursday April 16, 2020 @05:27AM
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I like Gnome shell. It keeps out of my way and I can do everything I need to do without every having to lay hands on the mouse.
I think most people complaining about Gnome are trying to use it either like Windows or like OSX. That of course won't work and thus they run into issues left and right. That's a shame, because the Gnome workflow has something to it.
Re:Gnome Shell UX Plans
by dancemethis on Monday April 20, 2020 @05:08AM
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Duly noted. As a long-time GNOME user I felt trolled by multiple statements over the 3.X years that can _very_ reasonably be reduced to "we consider the user base not very smart, so we'll cut completely a feature instead of even giving them the chance to put it back through an advanced setting and that's our way or the highway".
As was answered to you, 'twas just sarcasm while looking at the wounds in my figurative heart, and while you are entitled to your interpretation of it as trolling, it sounds fairly incorrect since I'm not even seeking official GNOME communication endpoints and picking on them directly. Trolling is sort of directed towards a target rather than random venting.
Re:Gnome Shell UX Plans
by Darmody on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:05PM
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I installed Ubuntu 20.04 two days ago because my old system wasn't supported anymore.
I've tried very hard to work with Gnome Shell but there are several essential things that I can't get over. How is it possible that in 2020 a DE doesn't work well on more than 1 monitor? I mean, it works, but not how it should. I won't say anything about the top bar only showing on the primary monitor but if I'm focusing on another monitor and I hit the meta button to see the menu to search for an app or a file I have to check the main monitor.
I could partially fix this with an extension but it's not updated and it won't work with the current Gnome version.
So I had to install Unity, which is unsupported and has some bugs but at least doesn't stop me from doing basic things and doesn't get on my way.
As a linux user is frustrating. I don't understand it. I can't see myself using anything else besides Unity for the foreseable future.
Re:Gnome Shell UX Plans
by shock on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @05:30PM
(#22883306)
As stupid as it sounds, some of it might be because they are emulating MacOS: a few years back, I found it infuriating that when I hit Alt-Tab on MacOS, the window list would appear on the primary monitor, not on the monitor where the mouse cursor was.
Activities spatial layout too maybe requires a single column option of all the open window tabs that can be scrolled through. Will keep the UI consistent with what everyone is used to on their phones. The grid view of window thumbs I find a bit hard to locate stuff esp when my terminals and editors have similar themes. Idk what the down side is but I am imagining using the mouse wheel to scroll through a single vertical column of all open windows.
I think most people complaining about Gnome are trying to use it either like Windows or like OSX. That of course won't work and thus they run into issues left and right. That's a shame, because the Gnome workflow has something to it.
As was answered to you, 'twas just sarcasm while looking at the wounds in my figurative heart, and while you are entitled to your interpretation of it as trolling, it sounds fairly incorrect since I'm not even seeking official GNOME communication endpoints and picking on them directly. Trolling is sort of directed towards a target rather than random venting.
I've tried very hard to work with Gnome Shell but there are several essential things that I can't get over. How is it possible that in 2020 a DE doesn't work well on more than 1 monitor? I mean, it works, but not how it should. I won't say anything about the top bar only showing on the primary monitor but if I'm focusing on another monitor and I hit the meta button to see the menu to search for an app or a file I have to check the main monitor.
I could partially fix this with an extension but it's not updated and it won't work with the current Gnome version.
So I had to install Unity, which is unsupported and has some bugs but at least doesn't stop me from doing basic things and doesn't get on my way.
As a linux user is frustrating. I don't understand it. I can't see myself using anything else besides Unity for the foreseable future.
Activities spatial layout too maybe requires a single column option of all the open window tabs that can be scrolled through. Will keep the UI consistent with what everyone is used to on their phones. The grid view of window thumbs I find a bit hard to locate stuff esp when my terminals and editors have similar themes. Idk what the down side is but I am imagining using the mouse wheel to scroll through a single vertical column of all open windows.