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Re:New iPhone SE by devy on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:49PM (#22879963)
> * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable

Sorry, you can't have IP67 water resistance with that 3.5mm headphone jack.

Edit: a lot of folks proved me wrong. I feel that I need to clarify: Apple's design goal is to make it thiner, more integrated, less components more battery space and unified input/output interface, all that combined with water resistance, is not practical. All the 3.5mm examples I am seeing doesn't attempt to make it thin and light albeit water resistant.

Re:New iPhone SE by kawsper on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:02PM (#22880154)
Re:New iPhone SE by urineaut on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:45PM (#22880717)
That's not true, although I assume it may be harder to water-proof devices with each possible opening in the chassis.

There are some water-resistant phones with a headphone jack and an IP68 rating even. The LG V30 for example is a beast. Semi-regular usage on rainy days works without any issues. Even using it as a flashlight it survived 30min of pouring rain. I had to wait for the USB-C port to dry up to charge it after getting home, but it still survived without any damage whatsoever.

Other phones that are both water-resistant and have a jack [1]:

* Pixel 3a

* Galaxy S10

* Huawei P30

* and a lot more

If I remember correctly, Apple tried to justify its removal due to its size and water-resistance. I wonder when (not if) Apple will remove the power plug due to "water-resistance" and insist on using Qi charging (even though it has worse efficiency[2]) and cloud services instead of transferring data via cable.

[1]: https://www.androidauthority.com/phones-with-headphone-jack-...

[2]: https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1...

Re:New iPhone SE by blt on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @04:14PM (#22882493)
The pixel 3a is not water resistant, as far as I know.
Re:New iPhone SE by urineaut on Thursday April 16, 2020 @06:11PM (#22894090)
You are right. Sorry, I've been a little bit too quick typing this comment. Unfortunately, it seems I cannot edit the comment anymore.
Re:New iPhone SE by camgunz on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:53PM (#22880017)
My Galaxy S8 has IP68 water resistance and a 3.5mm jack. I guess if you need the extra .5 meters that's non-negotiable, but still feels like a niche use case.
Re:New iPhone SE by ravoori on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:57PM (#22880087)
My LG v35 has a 3.5 mm headphone jack and is ip68 certified
Re:New iPhone SE by PHGamer on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:52PM (#22880003)
LOL the samsung s10 says otherwise.
Re:New iPhone SE by detaro on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:00PM (#22880130)
Motorola Moto x4 has both.
Re:New iPhone SE by dade_ on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @01:05PM (#22880198)
Sony Xperia Compact series