> almost as large as ... iPhone 11

See https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ for a comparison. It's at least a quarter smaller in both dimensions.

That image they include is disingenuous since the left sides of the two phones aren't aligned.

Does that really make that big of a difference? You can still tell the difference...

It does perceptually, not intellectually. Obviously anyone can see that it's offset, but the perception is still smaller than it actually is. There's no easy marker to re-align and try to make a better estimate.

Let's take a step back though- why are the phones in this image offset at all? Apple made the image, it's explicitly for a size comparison, so why make it harder to comprehend?

Good catch, I missed that.

You're right – the iPhone 11 is larger than I understood. I haven't bought a phone since the SE so my Apple info is a little rusty. But for the other phones I mentioned, it's quite similar.

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9537&idPhone2...

Exactly this. I compared it to Samsung S10e and in terms of size new iPhone SE and Samsung S10e are really close:

(HxWxD in mm)

S10e: 142.2 x 69.9 x 7.9; mass 150g; screen 5.8"

SE: 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3; mass 148g; screen 4.7"

Yep, the thing is, this phone has a huuuge forehead and chin which is comparable to from 5 years ago. Even if you don't want notches and pinholes, you can still have much thinner bezels without actually changing the body size. Look at this photo of Pixel 1 vs Pixel 2. They are both the same body size: https://i.imgur.com/VVqVt2x.png

Yes, I agree, this iPhone SE is too large. But it's at least a step in the right direction compared to where we've been heading.

I keep seeing this. I’m below average height and I only have use of one hand so I know I never use my phone with both hands. Between the single handed keyboard mode and double clicking on the home button to bring the screen down, I have no trouble using the 8 Plus with one hand.

You’re totally right!

Everyone here is just making things up!

Egregious sarcasm aside: I owned the 6s after the 5s and it was too large to use comfortably, I kept dropping it, it meant that I had to _only_ use the phone when I wanted to check something- maybe I could get away with just a glance but a quick reply required far too much time unless I used two hands.

So I got a Samsung Galaxy S8 which felt superb in the hand, but was still wayyyy too big, and it saw the pavement in a similar way; I got rid of it because Samsung’s Android is horrible and on the S8 it wasn’t removable and went back to the old form factor SE.

I haven’t dropped this phone once, it’s comfy, it’s light- easy to carry around and very easy to use in one hand while I wait and sip a drink or something.

Anecdote: my girlfriend has an iPhone X and due to the size of the thing she leaves it hanging around the apartment and has to go searching for it each time she wants to use it. It’s simply too uncomfortable to keep in her pocket.

Does Sony Xperia have a good track record of shipping stock android and releasing updates quickly? (I haven't checked).

usually very close to stock, fast monthly security updates but slower on full version number bumps