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Re:New iPhone SE by recursive on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @11:28AM (#22878867)
There's a difference between wanting something and having an expectation that you'll get it. For instance, I have an expectation that my phones will have a jack, which is one of the reasons my phone isn't Apple.
Re:New iPhone SE by dangus on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @11:46AM (#22879136)
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Re:New iPhone SE by recursive on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:03PM (#22879360)
> People who don't want to buy an iPhone because of it should just not buy them and stop hammering away at this dead horse.

That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm already not buying iPhones. The only reason I'd ever mention it anymore is when I see comments like this.

> You might as well give up on the headphone jack bud.

There's no reason to give up on headphone jacks.

> Finally, it has to be pointed out that people who complain about this omission underestimate how much internal space a headphone jack wastes in a phone.

I can't be underestimating it if I'm not estimating it. Some phones have jacks. Some don't. I buy the ones with jacks. I don't notice a difference in size.

Re:New iPhone SE by barbecue_sauce on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:38PM (#22879824)
I don't think the headphone jack will make much of a difference to size (specifically thinness) until they can completely eliminate all ports and move completely to wireless charging. I think that's their endgame here, as ports are the biggest hurdle to the thinness which their industrial designers (and marketers) fetishize.
Re:New iPhone SE by recursive on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @12:43PM (#22879890)
If anyone ever manages to produce a phone with zero ports on it, then I'll evaluate that phone on its own merits. I'm not going spend hundreds (thousands?) of dollars on a phone that's worse just because it might encourage the manufacturer to design one that might be better in the future.
Re:New iPhone SE by barbecue_sauce on Saturday April 25, 2020 @12:01AM (#22975442)
It's not really about "encouragement". This is clearly Apple's plan, and this is merely an incremental step that they must take to normalize certain things before they can achieve what they actually want to.