California’s Roadmap to Modify the Stay-at-Home Order [pdf]

Re:California’s Roadmap to Modify the Stay-at-Home Order [pdf] by mchusma on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:45PM (#22873616)

Governor Newsom, the governor of California, is a man (source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Newsom). This slide deck was released as a part of his press conference today. If a female staff member created the slides I don't think that changes anything, and is a poor ad-hominum attack, as the governor has presented this as his plan.

This issue (the issue of reopening) is not actually that much of a health discussion. It's a discussion about tradeoffs of a horrific deadly shutdown vs a horrific deadly disease. Health experts can help determine R0 and Rt and IFR, but they can't make these tradeoffs for us, it's ultimately a question for society.

We have to change the conversation from yelling at each other to debating the real details.

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Re:California’s Roadmap to Modify the Stay-at-Home Order [pdf] by wpietri on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @10:11PM (#22873736)

The author, according to the metadata, is Dr Sonia Angell, MD MPH, currently director of the CA Department of Public Health: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/meet-the-director

Pointing out that you don't know the source is not an ad hominem, because you are apparently offering yourself as an expert as to what a good plan is here. You also don't appear to know the difference between medicine and public health. The latter, of course, is very much about the tradeoffs between medical and other societal factors.

So I'll ask again: given that you are presenting your opinions as more pertinent than the experts here, what's the expertise you're basing that on?

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