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Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by sokoloff on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:50AM (#22864509)
I think the core belief is that supply and demand is a force that can actually cause more supply to come into a market where there is imbalance. IOW: rather than curtail the expression of demand via rationing, actually increase the supply.

If the marginal profit on TP is $0.10/roll and the price is not allowed to increase in time of excess demand, you’re likely to see factories optimize to squeeze every efficiency out, trying to eek out another penny per pack of 6 rolls.

Imagine instead a world where prices rise in times of excess demand. Producers now have an incentive to maintain flexibility in monthly production, not squeezing the last fractional penny out and instead allowing flex to over-produce when demand is high (and prices/marginal profit is higher).

Likewise, warehouse and distribution adapts to capitalize on high prices, using those high prices as a signal to get more goods to flow to those demanding the goods. In other words, more toilet paper is available for people who want toilet paper.

Instead of today’s world where I have to shop twice a week instead of once, or can’t add a more vulnerable neighbor’s shopping to my own, because we are limited to how many eggs I can buy in a single trip. How does that help anyone’s health?

Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by perl4ever on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @12:32PM (#22867983)
"I think the core belief is that supply and demand is a force that can actually cause more supply to come into a market"

Everybody believes that, in general. But in the short term, the elasticity of supply with respect to price approaches zero. If we ramped up production though, it would be too late, and then there would be a glut.

Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by someguydave on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @01:15PM (#22868586)
How about we let the suppliers and buyers figure that out, rather than having the government get between them with restrictions on how they can contract?
Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by perl4ever on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @05:21PM (#22871612)
Who are the suppliers? The management of the supermarket figured out that the appropriate thing to do was to ration the product. Are you implying they are not suppliers? There's a whole chain of people that work to bring products to people, hence the phrase "supply chain".

If some other store did not ration the product, then they would have empty shelves, so I'd go to the one that did.

Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by someguydave on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @07:04PM (#22872545)
>The management of the supermarket figured out that the appropriate thing to do was to ration the product.

Because they had a government gun to their head in the form of anti-gouging laws, or implications for the same. That's what I am arguing against.

If they were free to set prices, they might consider raising prices to keep stores in stock, rather than ration. They might not, if they calculate it will be a long-term PR hit. But right now, they are not free to choose.

Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by sokoloff on Wednesday April 15, 2020 @03:33AM (#22875437)
Exactly. Every time there’s a widespread power outage in the US, portable generators sell out. Almost every time, portable generators are readily available between 500 and 1000 miles away. Anti-price gouging laws ensure that people in the disaster area are not quickly served with higher-priced but available generators.

Further, local and state politicians and AGs often are seen grandstanding about how they stand ready to prosecute anyone who is raising prices on necessities beyond the normal price (sometimes allowing +10%, but often not even being explicit about that, leaving businesses in a murky area).

Watch for it next time a power disruption hits your local area.

Re:Economists who defend disaster profiteers are wrong by someguydave on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:41AM (#22865803)
Agreed. It’s deeply scary to me that it this stuff isn’t intuitively obvious to people who have lived in a free market economy their entire lives. The idea that a Soviet bread line is the most “ethical” way to distribute goods is madness.