I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU

Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @04:36AM (#22863813)

Disclaimer: I don't agree with the opinions presented on Sixth Tone or any other publication for that matter.

We've now progressed to the point where even objectively true information that isn't prefaced with "I HATE THE CCP" is considered propaganda. Imagine if somebody told you that NPR was Democrat backed liberal propaganda not because it provided false information, but because it wasn't as critical of progressive social policies as Fox News would be. That's not propaganda, that's disagreement. If you literally can not comprehend that somebody might legitimately disagree with you, and will dismiss objectively true information on those grounds, then maybe you should apply the same critical judgement you've displayed here to the media you do trust.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by throwaway_pdp09 on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:29AM (#22864378)

> We've now progressed to the point where even objectively true information that isn't prefaced with "I HATE THE CCP" is considered propaganda

No, you just made that up.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @07:41AM (#22864752)

That's what GP's position is. He agrees that the content of the article is correct (or can not prove otherwise), but considers it propaganda simply because it is not as critical of the Chinese government as he would prefer. Notice how no comments here have been able to point out any objective falsehoods with the article's content when asked to do so.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:10AM (#22865426)

I should be asking you that question. Your own conduct so far would qualify as "confusing the issue" and your screed against these "pro CCP" is decidedly "off-track".

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:29AM (#22865665)

My comment was made in reply to GP's and was a description and criticism of what he said. You seemed to have either genuinely or deliberately missed that point. When I clarified this you did not address the content of any of my arguments and instead went on a rant about how "pro CCP" people argue, which is off track because neither the article or I are "pro CCP".

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @10:48AM (#22866670)

My comment was made in direct reference to a previous comment. Claiming that I "made it up" when you can very clearly click parent and see that indeed a parent comment fitting the description given by mine exists is not precise and confuses the point. Your screed and this entire comment thread isn't even remotely related to the article anymore, which means that it is off track.

I can keep rebuking you and you'll just keep ignoring it and claim that I didn't. It seems that you've reached the "denial" phase that you've described.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by krageon on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @08:07AM (#22864884)

I find it incredibly ironic that from the current voting patterns we can clearly see that you have a point (yes, it's bad etiquette to refer to voting, but in this case it's topical), even with people claiming that you literally made this up.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by bhanhfo on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:03AM (#22864220)

"where even objectively true information"... do you have an example of this? What kind of recent news do you have in mind?

So far, all the Covid19 stats out of China proofed to be fake. But I am happy to stand corrected. What numbers proofed to be correct in hindsight?

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by OwlsParlay on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @07:03AM (#22864588)

> So far, all the Covid19 stats out of China proofed to be fake

Can you provide a source on that? The only "proof" I have seen people confident of is speculation based on the urns delivered to funeral homes - which IMO can be attributed to non-Covid-19 related deaths continuing during the lockdown.

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by TeMPOraL on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @07:45AM (#22864773)

> So far, all the Covid19 stats out of China proofed to be fake.

Citation needed. Which numbers have been proved to be incorrect? So far, all I've seen is everyone saying the equivalent of "it's China so they must be lying".

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by bhanhfo on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @09:48AM (#22865886)

You know very well that it is impossible to get accurate numbers at this point. Even the graveyards in Wuhan are currently locked and guarded.

So what kind of source do you expect me to link to?

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @10:27AM (#22866371)

So how do you know that the graveyards are locked? Care to share?

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Re:I Spent Seven Weeks in a Wuhan ICU by knolax on Tuesday April 14, 2020 @06:15AM (#22864278)

> So far, all the Covid19 stats out of China proofed to be fake.

I keep seeing people confidently claim that the numbers out of China are "fake" but I've yet to see a credible source. Could you please provide some?

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