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Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by lmm on Monday April 13, 2020 @12:22AM (#22853157)
> And even to avoid running headlong into this troll pit: Linux distros without systemd exist. It's dishonest to compare FreeBSD to Linux and then only focus on a subset of Linux distros.

Are any of them mature enough to depend on for serious work? I looked at moving back to Linux a few months ago, but all the non-systemd distributions seemed to be small projects and many of them looked to have schismed, collapsed, or both.

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by robertlagrant on Monday April 13, 2020 @08:52AM (#22855393)
Ah, "serious work". That well-known absolute thing that is the same for everyone.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by KitDuncan on Monday April 13, 2020 @12:32AM (#22853193)
Void is a small project, but absolutely rock solid. It's BSD inspired and systemd free. I like it a lot.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by _emacsomancer_ on Monday April 13, 2020 @12:57AM (#22853293)
I can also vouch for Void - I've used it on my primary laptop for about 4 years. It's a solid distro, with a great community. Void is very configurable, and it's easy to contribute to the project.

It's also unlike a number of 'systemd free' distros (many of which are essentially "Distro X, except without systemd") because its non-use of systemd is not out of some hate for systemd, but because the developers decided after using systemd (Void adopted systemd for a time really early on) that it conflicted with other goals of the project (like offering a musl libc flavour alongside a glibc flavour).

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by Jonnax on Monday April 13, 2020 @04:21AM (#22854050)
Here's the thing. I would run: Ubuntu, Debian, Centos or Red Hat on my laptop, desktop and also on any server that I run.

I wouldn't run any small distro in AWS.

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by freedomben on Monday April 13, 2020 @10:45AM (#22856274)
Have to agree here. I get a lot of benefits professionally from running Linux personally. I've been a full time desktop linux user over 10 years, and I'm often considered the "linux wizard" because I'm known for SSHing into servers and fixing obscure errors that others have looked at for hours with no success. My secret, is that I've run into most of the common problems (filesystem permission issues, including ACLs, selinux, low memory/OOM, conflicting dependency versions, etc) before and already mostly know how to fix them. The time I did on Arch was particularly helpful here. It was a hard first week or so but I learned more about linux during that two weeks than any other time.

Anyway the reasons I say that: These days I only run distros locally that I would run in production. I get intimately familiar with the intricacies of the distro that way and managing the servers comes natural to me because of that.

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by _ZeD_ on Monday April 13, 2020 @08:29AM (#22855234)
Slackware is still here looking at you guys
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by Koshkin on Monday April 13, 2020 @08:57AM (#22855417)
Slackware is the one Linux I keep coming back to after trying out something else. As always, it just works (and no dependency checking in its package managers is a blessing compared to dealing with some issues in Ubuntu or Debian; for others there's always pkgsrc, by the grace of NetBSD).
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by favadi on Monday April 13, 2020 @07:52AM (#22854994)
I know some developers use Gentoo with OpenRC for their daily work machines.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by probably_wrong on Monday April 13, 2020 @08:06AM (#22855080)
Devuan is a fork of Debian and it's alive and well.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by RMPR on Monday April 13, 2020 @04:54AM (#22854184)
Alpine and AntiX, I use them in VMs because they are lightweight, so far no issues.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by freedomben on Monday April 13, 2020 @10:47AM (#22856291)
What kind of apps do you run? A variety of languages/platforms?

Some stuff runs great in Alpine. Other stuff is subtlety but catastrophically broken in Alpine (such as database servers/clients and others that depend highly on locale for determining encoding).

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by Grimm665 on Monday April 13, 2020 @11:29AM (#22856676)
Agreed. I thought Alpine was superb until I ran into an issue mounting NFS shares that seem to be mountable just fine on every other Linux machine I've got lying around. No idea what's wrong with Alpine's NFS.
Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by RMPR on Monday April 13, 2020 @05:19PM (#22860133)
> What kind of apps do you run? A variety of languages/platforms?

Mainly Python, some issues with Musl, but nothing too bad. Anyway, these days I tend to mainly use AntiX.

Re:Technical reasons to choose FreeBSD over GNU/Linux by meshenna on Monday April 13, 2020 @05:48AM (#22854390)
Gentoo, maybe?