Don't Make Students Use Eclipse

Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by kyriakos on Sunday April 12, 2020 @01:08AM (#22846168)

I disagree with this as much as I dislike java I believe its a great language to teach someone object oriented programming. And you don't really need and ide at all, any text editor will do and will probably take away the complexity of learning the UI and help concentrate on what actual programming is. An IDE is really not needed to write your first algorithms as a student.

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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by DeathArrow on Sunday April 12, 2020 @05:01AM (#22846895)

But object oriented programming is gradually considered an antipattern by more and more people.

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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by kyriakos on Sunday April 12, 2020 @05:51AM (#22847067)

so is the problem that Java is not good as a programming language or that OO is no longer considered cool?

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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by DeathArrow on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:58AM (#22847346)

Java forces OO design on you. Everything is an object and you can't have free functions.

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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by fishmaster on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:31AM (#22847224)

Both.

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Re:Don't Make Students Use Eclipse by fishmaster on Sunday April 12, 2020 @06:31AM (#22847222)

We're talking about computer science and not about enterprise programming. Object oriented programming is not the focus here.

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