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Re:Things That Turbo Pascal Is Smaller Than (2011) by dragonwriter on Saturday April 11, 2020 @05:17PM (#22844326)
> Pretty sure it was the world's first IDE, not just an IDE.

That probably depends on whether you count live-coding environments like Smalltalk had as “IDEs”

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Re:Things That Turbo Pascal Is Smaller Than (2011) by petilon on Saturday April 11, 2020 @05:35PM (#22844445)
Hmm... you may be right. Here's the Smalltalk environment from 1980, it is pretty impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPiMl8XUKU
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Re:Things That Turbo Pascal Is Smaller Than (2011) by pjmlp on Saturday April 11, 2020 @06:47PM (#22844790)
Not only Smalltalk, check Interlisp-D, Mesa XDE and Mesa/Cedar.

Xerox PARC workstations were the first IDEs, alongside Lisp Machines from Genera and TI.

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Re:Things That Turbo Pascal Is Smaller Than (2011) by brabel on Sunday April 12, 2020 @04:41AM (#22846815)
That's pretty much just like a modern window-based user interface... in 1980!! It has overlapping windows, windows can be minimized and moved around, context menu via right-click, spreadsheet-like data... truly amazing.
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Re:Things That Turbo Pascal Is Smaller Than (2011) by xkriva11 on Sunday April 12, 2020 @01:19PM (#22849606)
You can try it here: http://www.cdglabs.org/thinglab/ (Smalltalk-78)
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