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Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Thursday April 09, 2020 @04:10PM (#22826667)
I hate to say it, but we have entered a time where information has been not only successfully weaponized, but can also be easily spread throughout the entire population with stunning penetration results. Quick example, I have recently found out about Yulin celebrations. I have zero to no doubt that it happens to be a part of anti-Chinese propaganda ( what are the odds of guy like me finding out about a local custom in a Chinese province organically ), but I simply cannot help reacting emotionally to its content.

I am sure 5G is spreading like wildfire for similar reasons ( though admittedly, this one is kinda silly, when there are actual things to worry about ... like say Mnuchin suddenly being able to disburse billions of dollars with a friendly IG, but I digress ).

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by knzhou on Thursday April 09, 2020 @04:28PM (#22826861)
Indeed, the machine works so well that, as a US citizen, I have little confidence in being able to stay in this country in the long term. Doesn't matter if I speak out, nothing will stop it.

It is amusing that the typical "skeptics" and "critical thinkers" online never notice. Their skepticism consists of swallowing the narrative whole, then insisting that the conspiracy is real but twice as evil as reported.

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by twomoretime on Thursday April 09, 2020 @04:57PM (#22827112)
>as a US citizen, I have little confidence in being able to stay in this country in the long term

You're likely in for a rude awakening if you expatriate. Things aren't perfect in the US but for someone in the middle class on a dev salary it's naive to think there are many places where you'd be substantially better off.

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by knzhou on Thursday April 09, 2020 @05:06PM (#22827209)
I didn't say I would be better off elsewhere, I said I wouldn't have a choice. And I don't make even 20% of a standard dev salary.
Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by rbanffy on Thursday April 09, 2020 @08:36PM (#22828745)
Pretty much everywhere else in the developed world you'll have a decent compensation and free universal healthcare. Depending on where you land, your kids will have free college tuition and you'll be able to retire without fear of some clever banker will destroy your pension fund.
Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by knzhou on Thursday April 09, 2020 @08:52PM (#22828830)
> in the developed world

So what? No matter where I go, I'm still going to be ethnically Chinese. If the US expels people like me, I assume Europe, etc. will follow suit.

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by rbanffy on Friday April 10, 2020 @08:42PM (#22838800)
Why would we expel you? Most of us have very sane governments, that respect human rights and don't make decisions based in conspiracy theories
Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by knzhou on Friday April 10, 2020 @08:57PM (#22838876)
As I said, given how information flow works, when you do it you'll think you have an excellent reason. When the time comes, you'll be hearing about something like the Yulin celebrations every single day, and in a month you'll hate whoever you're supposed to. That is the standard playbook, and it hasn't failed once yet.
Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by rbanffy on Saturday April 11, 2020 @04:59AM (#22840536)
I am sorry you feel like that, and, as an immigrant myself (Brazilian born, with Hungarian heritage, living in Ireland), I hope our species learns to embrace our cultural diversity.

I'm often reminded that we are just a couple hundred thousand years of human on top of many millions of years of monkey, and that we should be patient with ourselves.

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by hansjorg on Thursday April 09, 2020 @04:55PM (#22827096)
> we have entered a time where information has been not only successfully weaponized

Sorry, but this is an extraordinarily naive point of view.

The "fake news" meme is fake "news". Nothing new about it, just new players entering an old game.

Re:5G Virus Conspiracy Theory Fueled by Coordinated Effort by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Thursday April 09, 2020 @05:28PM (#22827396)
I disagree almost completely. You are right about propaganda not being a new concept. You are wrong thinking the delivery system not being a game changer here. Comparatively speaking, I would compare it to radio or TV entering the scene.

edit: I almost think it is like comparing invention of wheel to today's cars.