Re:Jonesforth: Implementing Forth in Assembly
by exikyut on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @10:57AM
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I've always been really, really curious about the GA144 devkit for a while: http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/products/, http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/DB014-190...
The only small caveat is that it's basically $500 for a PCB with two chips on it. (And a prototyping area, SRAM, an Ethernet PHY, SD, and USB...)
I'll probably continue to remain curious for some time, heh.
Re:Jonesforth: Implementing Forth in Assembly
by e12e on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @08:42AM
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Which compiler, and for what purpose - did you end up buying? What does it give you beyond the many open implementations?
On a side note - anyone know if greenarrays is still delivering hw? Those multicore forth chips really seemed nice (and crazy).
Re:Jonesforth: Implementing Forth in Assembly
by TurboHaskal on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @09:03AM
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Mostly performance. GForth is slow compared to the optimising compilers (I know about gforth-fast already). Also I don't care that much about open source. I'm old enough not to be opposed to the idea of buying compilers.
I ended up with iForth which is well priced, targets 64bit and has a simple license. Here's a feature list http://users.bart.nl/users/mhx/i4faq.html
SwiftForth and VFX are awesome as well but 32bit only and can't justify paying that much at this point.
Re:Jonesforth: Implementing Forth in Assembly
by e12e on Tuesday April 07, 2020 @11:55AM
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Hm, I hadn't really thought about optimizing compilers for forth... I wonder if the strategies are different than for eg c or Pascal compilers.
I guess the situation is simalar for other closed compilers (Intel c, high perf Java compiler/VMs etc).
If I may hijack this conversation: I'll be trying T3X [0] next, and know about the usual suspects B, BCPL and MCPL. They seem fun but not as malleable as Forth. Can HN recommend other (don't care if obscure) typeless programming languages?
[0] https://t3x.org/t3x/index.html