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Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by jakear on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:32AM (#22791346)
> If you Google "Piratebay", the first search result is a fake "thepirate-bay.org" (with a dash) but the Wikipedia article lists the right one. — shpx

How interesting. Bing doesn't do this, which leads me to believe it's not a matter of legality. Is Google simply electing to self-censor results that it'd prefer it's used not to know about? Strange move, especially given the alternative Google does index is almost definitely more nefarious.

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by sixhobbits on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:32AM (#22791568)
Google has been downranking sites based on copyright takedown requests since 2018 at least [0]. And it's been very hard to find torrent sites or streaming sites through Google since then in my experience.

As many have pointed out, this just makes it easier for actually malicious sites to get traffic.

[0] https://torrentfreak.com/google-downranks-65000-pirate-sites...

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by tomcooks on Monday April 06, 2020 @04:16AM (#22791778)
Google does list proper pirating sites!

At the bottom of the page click on the DMCA complaint, you'll find all the URLs you shouldn't ever, never ever, click on~

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by philips4350 on Monday April 06, 2020 @04:59AM (#22791964)
Whats funny and ironic is that this actually makes finding pirated content much easier since only actual sites that contain pirated content are the ones that will be listed on DMCA complaint list
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by terramex on Monday April 06, 2020 @05:36AM (#22792112)
In recent years it is less easy, as content owners are now reporting huge batches of URLs in one complaint, so finding what you are looking for in this mass is much harder. They also often report fake downloads and scam websites in DCMA complaints.
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by s_gourichon on Monday April 06, 2020 @06:01AM (#22792221)
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by tomcooks on Monday April 06, 2020 @05:32AM (#22792095)
Yes I wonder if these URLs have to be made public by law in DMCA notices.

I assume that, if they legally could, they wouldn't show you anything

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by kevin_thibedeau on Monday April 06, 2020 @10:46AM (#22794174)
The notices don't have to be disclosed to anyone but the alleged infringer. The URLs don't have to be hyperlinked either. This is one part of Google giving the trolls a middle finger.
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by StillBored on Monday April 06, 2020 @01:46PM (#22795941)
Google should index them all on a separate page. For science of course.

More than once I've done a search for something pedestrian (no intent for piracy/etc) only to notice the "some results removed" link. Out of curiosity I've clicked it, just to see what crazy things have been removed, and been quite amused/interested in the results.

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by capableweb on Monday April 06, 2020 @08:44AM (#22793193)
> At the bottom of the page click on the DMCA complaint, you'll find all the URLs you shouldn't ever, never ever, click on~

I don't think everyone is seeing this, because sometimes I see this but sometimes not, seems to depend on the query. Searching for "piratebay" doesn't show it in the bottom (I live in an European country [also in EU]) and meanwhile, official thepiratebay website is blocked on a ISP level here.

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by jonchurch_ on Monday April 06, 2020 @02:38AM (#22791372)
I'm not sure how long that's been the case. The actual site at their normal domain seems to have been down for a few months, with a 522 cloudflare timeout.

I'm curious if that's the case for you as well, or if it's my ISP blocking (I wouldn't expect to see the cloudflare error if my ISP was blocking but I don't know).

I bring this up because if the site is unresponsive from wherever you're searching (or perhaps unresponsive for all, idk) then maybe it got de-ranked on google.

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by onion2k on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:23AM (#22791531)
For me the address on Wikipedia times out with a 522 in exactly the same way. Bing's top result of the .party address works fine. I strongly suspect this is an ISP issue, but it is interesting that Google seems to have no knowledge of the .party domain.
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by el_nino on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:26AM (#22791545)
Just tested over Tor and it works: piratebayztemzmv.onion

P.S. Yes, it's their new official "readable" onion site link.

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by shp0ngle on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:52AM (#22791669)
Note that this is their official website, not just another fake Tor proxy

https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-moves-to-a-brand-new...

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by shp0ngle on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:50AM (#22791660)
Is the .party actual official website, or is it just a proxy too?
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by shp0ngle on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:50AM (#22791659)
That's the case for me for months now. I have no idea where do the proxies and mirrors even take the content from.
Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by aequitas on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:38AM (#22791611)
Piratebay is blocked in a few countries (like the Netherlands[0]). So proxies (with their own ads of course) are good business.

[0] https://blog.iusmentis.com/2017/06/19/eu-hof-verklaart-the-p...

Re:Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia by jimmaswell on Monday April 06, 2020 @03:17AM (#22791513)
This fake one seems to work fine. To what end is it there, honeypot or just ad money?