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Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by shoo on Saturday April 04, 2020 @07:54PM (#22782502)
> Plus, they get the additional disadvantage of trying to figure out an actual business model during a recession.

this has a bit of a silver lining: it'll help filter out bullshit business models that appear to work in the times of plenty.

Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by EthanHeilman on Saturday April 04, 2020 @10:26PM (#22783242)
It will also filter out sound business models that actually do work in times of plenty, but don't under the conditions of a pandemic.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by nostrebored on Saturday April 04, 2020 @10:39PM (#22783320)
That's far from a sound business model.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by pmart123 on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:06PM (#22783433)
I'm not sure I buy this. 80-90% revenue declines across many industries is unprecedented. Especially in cases where poor operations didn't impact the business. Businesses like Hilton or Disney that have operated for 100 years may go bankrupt (not out of business) before this is all over.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by Zenbit_UX on Sunday April 05, 2020 @05:26PM (#22788873)
Hilton may go bankrupt but Disney won't, they've been quite successful at diversifying their portfolio and I'm sure their streaming service is doing quite well. They recently announced that at least one of their upcoming movies will skip theatres and go directly to their streaming service, while others theatrical releases are being pushed back.

This allows certain parts of their business empire to fund the less performant ones e.g. adventure parks. Hilton has no such option, they're quite invested in the hospitality industry which leaves very little room for pivoting.

Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by jbverschoor on Sunday April 05, 2020 @03:57AM (#22784393)
And they will simply continue after the bankruptcy
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by pmart123 on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @12:33PM (#22814468)
Yes, I mentioned this. I’m just saying that a large drop in revenue right now doesn’t necessary correlate with a product that people generally want or is useful.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by mmahemoff on Saturday April 04, 2020 @11:56PM (#22783630)
Working 99 out of every 100 years is quite sound.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by nostrebored on Sunday April 05, 2020 @03:51AM (#22784373)
No, about every 8 years we see contractions.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by bitreality on Sunday April 05, 2020 @06:41AM (#22784909)
Right but they didn't result in Hilton / Disney having 80-90% revenue drops overnight. This is a very unique contraction. Even in the depths of 2008, DisneyWorld still had a steady flow of visitors, and Hilton hotels across the world still welcomed guests.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by makomk on Sunday April 05, 2020 @06:47AM (#22784924)
This is rather worse than your typical 8-year contraction. Like, experts aren't sure if it's going to be better or worse than the Great Depression and they're not optimistic based on what we've seen so far levels of bad.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by cutemonster on Saturday April 04, 2020 @10:59PM (#22783405)
For example restaurants and cafes and gyms
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by vkou on Sunday April 05, 2020 @08:20AM (#22785231)
Most business models also don't work if the world plunges into global thermonuclear war, but we still consider them to be sound.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by EthanHeilman on Sunday April 05, 2020 @12:19PM (#22786453)
Yep, if your startup plan has a good chunk of the budget dedicated to "how does the business survive global thermonuclear war" you are wasting money, time and focus.
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by adamsea on Sunday April 05, 2020 @12:20AM (#22783714)
Hotels. Parking. Restaurants. Not sound?
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by Andrex on Saturday April 04, 2020 @10:35PM (#22783292)
If a business model works based on current conditions, how is that "bullshit"?
Re:Startups are pummeled in the ‘great unwinding’ by hef19898 on Sunday April 05, 2020 @03:30AM (#22784298)
When it is based on multiple external funding rounds to remain cash positive while aiming at profitability in the future.