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Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by PaulDavisThe1st on Saturday April 04, 2020 @01:32PM (#22779865)
Much of the "progress" of the last few thousand years, and in particular the last few hundred, has been the move away from the sort "polite society"-centric policies and towards a model in which we recognize the value of so many different kinds of human activities.

Besides, I think the comment you were replying to was really about the almost complete absence of post-secondary "technical education" in the USA, in particular when compared to countries like Germany.

Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by thaumasiotes on Saturday April 04, 2020 @01:52PM (#22780021)
> Besides, I think the comment you were replying to was really about the almost complete absence of post-secondary "technical education" in the USA, in particular when compared to countries like Germany.

Are these two different phenomena? If there are more glaziers in Armenia than there are in America, is that because Armenia sends the message "glaziers are winners" and America says "glaziers are losers", or because America sends the message "no matter who you are, you're a winner, and therefore you shouldn't be a glazier" while Armenia is fine with telling its losers that maybe winning isn't for them and they should consider being a glazier?

Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by PaulDavisThe1st on Saturday April 04, 2020 @03:25PM (#22780764)
In a country that sends a clear message that "being a plumber is an important and rewarding job with above-median-income job", more people will entertain aspirations to become a plumber.

In a country that sends the message "being a plumber means you're fairly stupid, have no other talents and are doing a nasty, dirty usless job", people won't aspire to being plumbers.

Note that in the US at least, experienced & skilled plumbers are paid above median income (in some cases, a lot above median).

Re:What Armenians should know about life in America (2014) by thaumasiotes on Saturday April 04, 2020 @03:57PM (#22781000)
> Note that in the US at least, experienced & skilled plumbers are paid above median income (in some cases, a lot above median).

Something analogous is true in India, where men are willing to take substantial pay cuts (~50%) in order to hold a white-collar job instead of a blue-collar job. They do that because women don't want to marry blue-collar workers.

Focusing on income levels in marketing to the men would seem to be misplaced.