If encryption keys are stored in a country where the company is required, by law or by force, to turn them over to authorities upon request then that should be noted. And yes that includes the US to a lesser degree.

When people say 'the server with the encryption keys is physically located in China, and they have many Chinese employees', the subtext that we should all know at this point is that they're required by Chinese law to turn everything over to the authorities. We have hard evidence & beyond hard evidence of this, so it's kind of assumed that educated people are aware of this. And yes the same goes for say US telecom companies having legally mandated backdoors & the US government exploiting this to conduct unauthorized surveillance or even just purely commercial spying, it's well-documented, everyone should know this. So in the future someone can say 'this telecom company is US-based' and we can all understand the subtext.

So it's OK to just say 'the servers are in China' and we should all know what that means, at this point. TLDR- it's OK to have priors

I've really grown to dislike the "people who presumably consider themselves ethical defending a regime that represses free speech and expression, brutally crushes dissenters, disappears ethical doctors, is led by a 'president for life' dictator, and has literally hauled off 1M muslims to internment campus where their organs are being harvested and their culture is being erased, thing".

Wikipedia references estimates of 1.5 million & 1-3 million. [0]

"Uighurs are allegedly pressured to renounce their culture" [1] More references is the Wikipedia article as well.

"China forcefully harvests organs from detainees" [2] Same article discusses the 1.5 million figure.

All of these are from basic Google searches. The information is out there if you look.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps

[1] http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2019/11/14/20...

[2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests...

Where the 1 million number came from:

https://qz.com/1599393/how-researchers-estimate-1-million-uy...

https://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/features/where-d...

https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghu...

Note the sources: Radio Free Asia (CIA propaganda group), Adrian Zenz (religious nutjob), etc.

Note the method: Estimates by satellite imagery and interviewing a handful of residents.

All of these reports that are used as evidence of cultural genocide are hearsay. Uyghurs are taught to renounce extremist beliefs not their culture as a whole.

Here is the actual report from the 'tribunal':

https://chinatribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ChinaTr...

Note that their 'direct evidence' are also just hearsay. I see no concrete proof of organ harvesting from Uyghurs. Maybe you can find it.

First Page Of Google.

I don't believe everything I see on the first page of Google, and you shouldn't either.

You have been given the citations you asked for, but now you want something specific but you haven’t said what.

What are your criteria for something you wouldn’t just dismiss?

>You have been given the citations you asked for

I disagree. I see a lot of speculation not actual proof.

>you want something specific but you haven’t said what. What are your criteria for something you wouldn’t just dismiss?

How about proof to back up these claims? It's amazing how some people can be so invested in a story that they'll throw basic logical reasoning out the window.