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The launch of the Tianhe core module was live streamed on Tiktok and possibly other outlets. Not sure about this one though.

Except for the fact that there is no solid proof of "concentration camps" and genocide...

Meanwhile, certain countries are totally okay to support despite the documented million plus Muslims they have killed over past decades. Ironically these are the same countries that are throwing around accusations of genocide.

This is a huge reason why China imposes certain rules on foreign corps if they wanted to operate there. The media and politicians makes it all about politics, but it is an entirely reasonable way to deal with foreign mega corps. Local competitors would not survive against something like Google without government protection. 100 mil fine every once in a while is just the cost of doing business for them. How many similar cases have occurred that never went to court?

No, Charlie. For the hundredth time, Jewish people were not sent to vocational training camps for violent extremism during WWII. Uyghur are also not being killed. Nice "backbone" tho.

The NSA didn't reveal any secrets that couldn't be looked up by anyone who cares about privacy. Is Thief A more trustworthy than Thief B because Thief A told you to lock your doors and windows and Thief B didn't, when both already have keys to your house?

No need. Straight from the horse's mouth:

Secretary of State and former CIA director Mike Pompeo: "we lied, we cheated, we stole..."

My argument is that certain questions need to be asked instead of taking the headline at face value, given the history of questionable actions by the US government and media when it comes foreign nations. If you've read the article or looked at the linked resources, it's obvious that this campaign is directed towards China, and therefore Chinese or Chinese-American researchers. One question that should be immediately obvious to ask is: how are the targets chosen in this investigation? Is it a blanket investigation of all scientists of a certain seniority in certain fields regardless of nationality or race?

It seems to be a common frame among those attacking China that China is still the way it was in the 1950s. Which I guess makes sense, given that under Trump/Obama, the US is descending back into McCarthyism. I imagine American propagandists are dusting off a lot of the old talking points.

From my experience, the general American public still think China is communist. I agree regarding China and capitalism, but a dictatorship it is not. If you were to compare China's foreign policy with that of the US, it fairly obvious that China is simply trying to build itself up through economic means, but the US feels threatened by the competition so it uses underhanded tactics such as smearing China in every MSM outlet, banning US companies from doing business with Chinese companies, banning Chinese technology, etc. It's almost identical to what it did to Japan back in the days which is why you're running Intel or AMD today instead of Fujitsu, Hitachi, Toshiba.

Many in the US are brainwashed by the American media empire.

One typical American propaganda tactic is to suggest that only communist countries that the US doesn't like are conducting espionage, or that espionage is uncommon in geopolitics. This way, the US government can easily justify discriminatory policies that unjustly targets, say Chinese researchers, to its public. The US has a long history of spying on foreign nations and stealing IP to benefit American businesses. US media has a long history of outright lying and otherwise spreading propaganda to manufacture consent for the government. Any accusations by the US government against other countries should be taken with a giant grain of salt, especially without proof.

"My point being, do not be careless in applying ideals and ideologies to peoples (or governments in this case) that do not deserve them"

You're literally doing that but for the US. The families of countless people killed by the US in its illegal wars over just the past several decades would disagree with you, if they haven't been wiped out themselves. Same goes for the countless people that starved to death from US sanctions because their government refused to bow to the US empire.

>You have been given the citations you asked for

I disagree. I see a lot of speculation not actual proof.

>you want something specific but you haven’t said what. What are your criteria for something you wouldn’t just dismiss?

How about proof to back up these claims? It's amazing how some people can be so invested in a story that they'll throw basic logical reasoning out the window.

I don't believe everything I see on the first page of Google, and you shouldn't either.

Where the 1 million number came from:

https://qz.com/1599393/how-researchers-estimate-1-million-uy...

https://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/features/where-d...

https://www.nchrd.org/2018/08/china-massive-numbers-of-uyghu...

Note the sources: Radio Free Asia (CIA propaganda group), Adrian Zenz (religious nutjob), etc.

Note the method: Estimates by satellite imagery and interviewing a handful of residents.

All of these reports that are used as evidence of cultural genocide are hearsay. Uyghurs are taught to renounce extremist beliefs not their culture as a whole.

Here is the actual report from the 'tribunal':

https://chinatribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ChinaTr...

Note that their 'direct evidence' are also just hearsay. I see no concrete proof of organ harvesting from Uyghurs. Maybe you can find it.

All of them are usually free.

Compared to the US response to H1N1 in 2009, a resounding YES!

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/somethings-right-here-folks-l...

There are plenty of videos on Youtube showing that they are in fact not just warehouses with beds. What would they need to contain to qualify as hospitals in your opinion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDIcWkjCKIg