Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by jasondclinton on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @01:35PM
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This comment is off-topic: the article is about physical buttons for non-safety-critical systems. E.g. the article explicitly mentions climate control.
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Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by daotoad on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @01:50PM
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You can still die if the driver spends too long messing with air conditioner settings instead of focusing on the road.
CarPlay and Android Auto make this problem worse, IMO. Now you have app publishers writing arbitrarily complex UIs for cars. Spotify is a bitch to use while driving and because of Apple's reluctance to enable Siri support for third party apps, it's not very controllable by voice.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by diydsp on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:46PM
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yup, just rented a cool modern car and was distraught at how much menu-diving there was. and even if you memorize it, the lag was still huge vs. real-time controls!
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by sigspec on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @11:50PM
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"Siri, play the Eagles on spotify"
Been available for a little bit now.
https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-use-siri-to-control-...
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by hinkley on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @01:58PM
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The ergonomics in question here are not about the driver being able to operate controls in a critical situation. They're about operating the controls without causing a critical situation.
If you want, you might think of radio, climate controls, etc as having negative values on the safety axis. You still want to shift them to the right as far as you can.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by hnarn on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @01:44PM
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough about this but I was more trying to make a point that physical input is safer, and that the trend towards touchscreens in general worries me. So a return to "normal", which I guess is not so normal these days, is for me very welcome. Touchscreens in cars cause safety issues for other reasons, namely those of distraction, but my concern is what the future will look like if touchscreen normality takes the upper hand over safety concerns.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by masklinn on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @02:42PM
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Climate control is something you will want to adjust while driving, so it should be as eyes-free as possible once the basics have been acquired.
I can’t think of a car I’ve driven where the climate control was not physical though, that seems pretty insane.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by iknowstuff on Thursday April 02, 2020 @04:03AM
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Will you though? You have a temperature you're comfortable at. Set climate control to that and let the software manage the air.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by jasondclinton on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @06:27PM
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All Tesla climate is non-physical. All newer Volvos are except for the defrost controls, as well.
Re:Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
by KotlinFan554001 on Tuesday March 31, 2020 @01:46PM
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I am really sorry but foggy windshield is definitely safety critical.