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Re:WeWork sells Meetup by Barrin92 on Monday March 30, 2020 @03:51PM (#22731621)
When Whatsapp was acquired for 20 billion and was already one of the largest messaging services on the planet it had 50 employees total, 30 of them engineers.

Now granted that's more than five people, but that was a planet sized service. Say you're a company that's worth 10 million or 50 million with a proportionate amount of complexity, you ought to be able to built that with a team of 10 people if you chose your software stack wisely.

Paul Graham has an older piece about Lisp and beating large companies by having a technological edge. Picking your software and understanding architecture can be very important. I have seen Clojure teams of smart engineers in particular in distributed / concurrent systems (the sort of thing that can produce a lot of value) who do as much work in a team of 5 as a big corporate Java behemoth does with a 100 people.

Re:WeWork sells Meetup by pea on Monday March 30, 2020 @05:22PM (#22732410)
I've also seen small teams of smart engineers using decidedly "boring" stack like Django/Rails + MPA on EBS do as much as much work as a larger teams going hard on more cutting edge stuff (React + Redux + Scala on k8s).

I wonder what the deciding factor is. I used to be part of a Haskell team and it was actually net negative vs. just using something really batteries included.

Re:WeWork sells Meetup by nicoburns on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:11PM (#22732744)
I feel like the deciding factor might to do with team size, skill, and cohesion as team. Having a smallish team makes it possible (although not easy) to have a team that are all high performers. And that team can easily outperform one 2x-5x as large if not more, because there is a large communication overhead to scaling to more people. If you have competent people who "just get" each other, then communication flows and doesn't actually take up much time.

The technology choices follow on from this. If you have a smart team, then you can pick technologies that solve the problem most efficiently, rather than the lowest common denominator that everyone will be able to use, or what's most fashionable (you see this in every field: the "good" people are often following trends or best practices (and doing it well), but the very best tend to have a much more nuanced judgement. They know about the latest thing, they'll use it sometimes, but they keep their own council, and they're not afraid to go off and do something unorthodox if it makes sense for the situation they're in.

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Side point: Incidentally, React is actually on my list of go-to productive boring technologies. It's definitely overused (despite building React apps in my day job, my personal website is built with Hugo, and a lot of sites would be better off with server-rendered Django/Rails/Laravel), but where you need that complex client-side interactivity I think it's the generally best tool for the job.

Re:WeWork sells Meetup by abiogenesis on Monday March 30, 2020 @10:15PM (#22734362)
> Having a smallish team makes it possible (although not easy) to have a team that are all high performers. And that team can easily outperform one 2x-5x as large if not more, because there is a large communication overhead to scaling to more people.

^ This. As the project gets larger you can't find enough "star programmers" in a timely manner and have to fall back to mediocracy. Read "The Mythical Man-Month" and the associated Brooks' Law for context.

Re:WeWork sells Meetup by BigJono on Monday March 30, 2020 @06:04PM (#22732700)
The deciding factor is how complex the code is. You can add a ludicrous amount of complexity into a React app before you've even implemented your first actual feature. People do it all the time. Those people will always get smashed in the marketplace if they have no other advantages and a competitor that's developing PG style with a lean team of actual experts.
Re:WeWork sells Meetup by xpressvideoz on Monday March 30, 2020 @05:52PM (#22732614)
> I used to be part of a Haskell team and it was actually net negative vs. just using something really batteries included.

Could you elaborate on that? What were problematic?

Re:WeWork sells Meetup by bob33 on Monday March 30, 2020 @05:13PM (#22732359)
Same with Instagram, not sure how many people, but they could all almost fit in a garage together.