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Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by geddy on Monday March 30, 2020 @12:38PM (#22729507)
Yes but would it always hold up in court? You can give your soul away by installing a piece of software without reading the agreement but it wouldn't hold water, of course. Curious how this would work with federal or state level wiretap laws.
Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by Frost1x on Monday March 30, 2020 @12:54PM (#22729697)
Holding up in court is one facet. Needing to litigate in and of itself is typically a deterrent, especially for complex issues where there's a time/cost deterrent for pursuing combined with perception of success in court.

There's a lot you can get away with by making a process complex, arduous, and potentially expensive. Faced with that option vs letting some employer take photos of you in your pajamas without shaving while watching your every move, people tend to forego privacy.

When the working population at large starts to follow suit, you've artificially introduced a new trend with artificial social acceptance. Now, it makes a single employee battle concerned about privacy even more daunting and introduces perception of increased risk of failure if legally pursued for the employee thinking of litigating.

The end result is: privacy is eroded. Rinse repeat, for just about anything you want to change. Just make change gradual and give it time. It then takes someone with the financial and time resources to take a hit and pursue as well as eagerness to bother.

Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by californical on Monday March 30, 2020 @04:16PM (#22731859)
This is a really well-worded comment, thanks!
Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by monocasa on Monday March 30, 2020 @04:32PM (#22732017)
Ehhhh, the supreme court has found that you can sign away rights in a shrink wrap agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Mobility_LLC_v._Concepc...

Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by ska on Monday March 30, 2020 @12:54PM (#22729698)
Generally at work you have far fewer expectations of privacy, particularly on non-personal devices.
Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by CydeWeys on Monday March 30, 2020 @12:49PM (#22729648)
It's your employer's hardware. It's legal for companies to oversee the work their employees are doing.
Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by Frost1x on Monday March 30, 2020 @01:10PM (#22729873)
Activating the camera and/or the microphone remotely without notification, on non-corporate owned premises may be illegal. There are wiretapping laws, etc.

Just because I own a microphone and camera doesn't mean I can use it unknowingly in your home. Even if you were to borrow it and willfully bring that camera and microphone into your home, there are reasonable expectations of privacy that can't be violated.

If I explicitly said I'll be using that microphone and camera to record you, made that very clear, and had you sign off on it without duress, then there may be grounds. The problem is, as a condition of employment, at least for me, would be a form of duress. If it becomes widespread and everyone caves into signing off on that sort of recording, then itll start to lose strength as being a form of pressure.

Re:Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers by CydeWeys on Monday March 30, 2020 @04:35PM (#22732039)
Camera/microphone isn't what was being discussed in this conversation thread. The topic at hand was taking screenshots of the desktop.