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Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by setr on Sunday March 29, 2020 @10:13AM (#22719136)
If you're just looking at VMs you'd probably be better off with something like linode or digital ocean, and get flat monthly fees.

Though amongst those service-types, I can't really recommend beyond the fact that linode & DO didn't give me any headaches for the one month I used them

Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by Someone1234 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @10:45AM (#22719399)
> If you're just looking at VMs you'd probably be better off with something like linode or digital ocean, and get flat monthly fees.

Which means you won't learn AWS/Azure/etc instead, and they lose mind-share. This is actually an argument for why they SHOULD offer hard limits, not an argument against.

If their goal is to push startups/newbies/hobbyists to other platform, they're definitely on the right path. If the goal is to make their cloud services safe to learn/start using, then they could do much better.

Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by oefrha on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:45AM (#22719887)
Yeah, for my personal projects I always stick to flat fee hosts like Linode and only ever used AWS for some backup storage in S3, and GCP for a geographical region that Linode doesn’t serve well. And whenever I use the big clouds I get paranoid and have to check billing & usage very often since I’m always just one oops/DDoS away from incurring a large bill, as opposed to the flat fee hosts where I leave shit running for months or years at a time without worrying. (FWIW Amazon Lightsail might be a flat fee service, but I heard performance is pretty bad so never tried it.)
Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by ghaff on Sunday March 29, 2020 @12:31PM (#22720268)
I think even Lightsail can expose you to data transfer overages although I don't know how large a bill those could realistically add up to.
Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by oefrha on Sunday March 29, 2020 @12:42PM (#22720368)
Yes, Lightsail’s egress overage fee is the same as EC2’s crazy egress pricing (at least $0.09/GB), whereas Linode charges me a much more reasonable $0.01/GB if I go over.
Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by wolco on Sunday March 29, 2020 @12:07PM (#22720069)
Newbies/hobbyists shouldn't be using aws/azure over digital ocen/vultr/linode unless their hobby is learning aws/azure. Most startups shouldn't either.. if you can't afford to hire an aws/azure expert you shouldn't be using it. You are probably doing it in a way that will cost you in the future.
Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by Someone1234 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @01:41PM (#22720891)
> if you can't afford to hire an aws/azure expert you shouldn't be using it.

Your logic is a self-contradiction:

- You need an expert to use AWS/Azure

- It is unsafe to even learn AWS/Azure without already being an expert.

Where do these experts come from? Osmosis? If there's no safe way to learn them, and being an expert is a prerequisite to using them, then you've created an artificial self-limiting supply shortage.

This is another argument that defeats itself and shows that these limits are absolutely needed to stop a mindshare loss/lack of expertise.

Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by scarface74 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @01:53PM (#22720991)
Where do these experts come from?

In my case, working for a company that gave me admin access from day one with no practical experience with AWS.

Even though I haven’t done anything stupid (yet) and think I know enough not to now, I wouldn’t recommend that....

Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by bulatb on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:00AM (#22719530)
I still worry about someone getting into my account. The largest insurance would run $2,240/month, and you can spin up 25 of them no questions asked. Plus there's Spaces, backups, snapshots.

My own mistakes are probably a greater risk, but still. Turn on that 2FA.

Re:How to burn the most money with a single click in Azure by JorgeGT on Sunday March 29, 2020 @11:09AM (#22719602)
I have a prepaid account at Aruba Cloud for my VPS, zero risk. Just top up when necessary.