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Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by gigatexal on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:03PM (#22712958)
I’m not a dev but a consumer in this question and I’d just say a service or site that has Sign In with Apple and Apple Pay available on the web is and instant use on my end. I will continue to vote with my paltry wallet for these technologies to take off even more, especially Sign In with Apple.

I don’t want to give my actual email out. I like the relay aspect. And it should make logging in and user management and single sign on and all that much easier no?

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by sails on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:13PM (#22713041)
Likewise. I will not create an account unless I am certain I'll use the app.

With Apple Sign In, I will consider trying it.

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by untog on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:05PM (#22713936)
I don’t want to sound dismissive but the fact that a very tech-savvy HN user likes Sign In with Apple isn’t all that indicative of anything broader. I think that’s why the OP wanted to know what things look like on the backend.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by duxup on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:11PM (#22713969)
Yeah I suspect that could be a very narrow crowd / experience being expressed.

It reminds me of when I used to participate in a lot of gaming related forums and etc. The enthusiast crowd would pan a game as just terrible and unplayable ... and it would go on to sell lot hot cakes and just rake in the money.

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by freepor on Saturday March 28, 2020 @03:28PM (#22713704)
I’ve spent at least $2000 using Apple Pay on the Web that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by techsupporter on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:10PM (#22713962)
I'm the same way. I needed to order some aquarium supplies and didn't feel like doing the copy-paste-credit-card-number dance so I clicked around the list of distributors listed on Seachem's web site until I found one who accepted Apple Pay.

(Also, everyone who uses Stripe for payment flow--not just processing, but with the Stripe widget--should take 10 minutes and enable Apple Pay. On the other hand, maybe please don't because then I'll be very broke and in debt with the ease of purchasing...)

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by ornornor on Saturday March 28, 2020 @03:30PM (#22713712)
Failing that, have you heard of spamgourmet? Along with a password manager, I have unique logins and passwords to most websites I use.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by techsupporter on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:07PM (#22713943)
The issue I ran into in the past with sites like spamgourmet is once they get moderately known, other sites start blocking the use of their addresses (that is, Zorflab.whatever will refuse to let users put in a @spamgourmet.com address).

A workaround is to use a domain you own and either point it at one of those services or set up a catch-all address with your e-mail provider. I do the latter. I have @subdomain.adomainiown.example configured at FastMail with * delivered to a folder in my main e-mail account. As a nice bonus, I can also send messages with [email protected] as the From address when needed.

Since it is a domain I own and no one else uses it, no services will likely stop me from using it. And since it's a subdomain, it's not easy to discover so spammers can't indiscriminately blast away at [email protected].

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by ornornor on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:11PM (#22713970)
Yes, this happens. Although I've been using SG for something like 10 years now and it's rare when a website blocks @SG (and the dozen other synonym domains) addresses.

What's nice with SG is that the emails are sent to /dev/null once the count is over whereas with a catchall, you keep receiving everything sent to any address for ever.

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by techsupporter on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:19PM (#22714025)
> with a catchall, you keep receiving everything sent to any address for ever.

That's true, and I wish Fastmail had a better way of managing rules remotely (with something like remote sieve or an API) so I could script a click-button-turf-address-forever. On the other hand, I don't mind still getting the follow-ups for some stuff. For example, Target has [email protected] for years to use for order confirmations.

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by ornornor on Sunday March 29, 2020 @02:27AM (#22716857)
You can also set a SG address to always forward emails coming from a particular email. So you could set it so that [email protected] is always forwarded and doesn’t change the count and you’ll always get these but not the newsletter.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by jrockway on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:42PM (#22713318)
What apps are using Apple Sign In, anyway? I haven't run into any and kind of just assumed it died or hasn't launched yet.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by ShakataGaNai on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:51PM (#22713396)
Originally Apple set a very aggressive due date for this feature and the dev's fought back. So the due date was pushed back to April 2020. Moving forward you should start to see it appear on almost any app that already has social auth.

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09122019b

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#sig...

Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by bdcravens on Saturday March 28, 2020 @03:18PM (#22713607)
Yesterday they announced that requirement (among others) was pushed back to June 30, presumably due to COVID-19.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by sjroot on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:46PM (#22713363)
At this point, any app that is sold on the App Store that offers any OIDC auth options (e.g. Google, Facebook) MUST also include Sign in with Apple.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by enos_feedler on Saturday March 28, 2020 @03:04PM (#22713497)
Except of course if you are Google or Facebook themselves since it is considered 1P sign in. Many people don’t see it because they are mostly logging into these big services. Smaller services are just dropping 3P in favor of direct sign up. With auto fill and suggested password the friction is low. I have seen some social apps that don’t want to give up on Facebook login add Apple buttons (Bumble). These are my observations.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by nocture on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:50PM (#22713387)
Our iOS team added it late last year to the KAYAK app. Don’t know the percentage of users who used it, but tried it myself and was an instant fan.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by darkcha0s on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:46PM (#22713365)
I haven’t seen it until about 5 minutes ago— the ZDF (one of the German national broadcast channels) uses it for their on demand app. Otherwise I frequently use Apple Pay with Lieferando (a European delievery Service). Have to say it’s pretty seamless and it saves me 3 taps compared to paying with PayPal.
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by gigatexal on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:31PM (#22714103)
Lieferando’s checkout with Apple Pay is really great
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by akmarinov on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:01PM (#22713906)
Booking.com uses it on their app and site
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by cygned on Saturday March 28, 2020 @03:20PM (#22713619)
Fantastical also offers it
Re:Ask HN: Mobile devs who added Apple Sign In, what convers... by mr_toad on Saturday March 28, 2020 @09:35PM (#22715654)
Pocket uses it.