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Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by lotsofpulp on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:23PM (#22708663)
What would you have done? Saved $45B in cash in case a virus like this causes the world economy to stop?

There is no world where an airline/hotel or any business could have possibly saved enough cash to fight a 90%+ drop in revenue for months and still remain competitive in the market.

Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by adrr on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:34PM (#22708709)
Apple and google have large cash reserves. They also could have paid off all their debt with the profits.
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:49AM (#22709995)
Apple and google are uniquely extremely high margin businesses, and even they would be shaken after a few months of no income.
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by saagarjha on Saturday March 28, 2020 @02:52AM (#22709676)
I thought that for them it was just better to keep borrowing than to move around their money?
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by jdavis703 on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:14PM (#22708888)
Boeing’s crisis started long before CV19. The 737 Max debacle was already weighing heavily on their balance sheet.

The point is, it’s hard to predict the future. Who knows if the future will bring a fatal bug in your software, a pandemic, or both. But regardless, we all know tough times will always happen, and to therefore be prepared.

Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:51AM (#22710004)
And my point is you can’t be prepared for months of no revenue. No consumer is going to pay the high prices needed for a business to insure itself for an extinction level event, because an alternative business won’t and will offer lower prices.

For example, a hotel owner can choose to squirrel away cash to protect the hotel and its employees for months of no income. A competing hotel will instead choose to renovate the hotel. Which hotel will customers choose to stay at?

Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by jdavis703 on Sunday March 29, 2020 @02:19PM (#22721246)
The “prepper” hotel could instead take out a loan (using their savings as collateral) to renovate.
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by goatinaboat on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:19AM (#22709917)
What would you have done? Saved $45B in cash in case a virus like this causes the world economy to stop?

The job of management is to find a profitable way to deploy capital. If management are returning capital to shareholders, outside of expected dividends of course, it’s because they are bereft of ideas. What would I have done? Invested a large portion of that money in long term R&D and careful strategic acquisitions. It’s the same over at IBM. The current generation of managers have inherited cash flows set up by their predecessors but have no idea what to do with them.

Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 28, 2020 @04:48AM (#22709991)
What R&D would pay the airlines’ and hotels’ employees for the next few months?
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by goatinaboat on Saturday March 28, 2020 @06:21AM (#22710298)
OP’s question was about Boeing, but it’s true that the airlines also squandered their capital on share buybacks.
Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 28, 2020 @08:22AM (#22710702)
Squandered means there was a better, evident option at the time. I have not yet been able to find a satisfactory answer to the question of what the companies should have done rather than buybacks, especially to mitigate the effects of a literal shutdown of basically entire lines of business resulting in no income.

The businesses in years past made money, invested some of it, spent some on R&D, and distributed some to shareholders (via buybacks). What other option was there?

Re:Bird lays off hundreds via Zoom call by cycrutchfield on Friday March 27, 2020 @10:37PM (#22708724)
Especially because they know that if they go under, the Federal government will have their back. It's win-win, baby! What's a moral hazard?