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Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by echelon on Monday March 23, 2020 @02:22PM (#22667005)
The terms do not need to be redefined or made more complex.

"Nature" is genotype.

"Nuture" is everything not encoded by genotype or that environmentally changes expression. It doesn't matter if it's parenting, culture, or random noise. It's the universe the genotype is exposed to.

Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by jshevek on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:41PM (#22667902)
We benefit from having different levels of granularity in our terminology for different purposes. Noise and non-noise nurture (as you use the term) are sometimes, but only sometimes, worth differentiating between.

Those who see a benefit from making this distinction may also see a benefit in having different terms.

Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by njarboe on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:18PM (#22667656)
When an egg and sperm fuse, the resulting cell contains more than just the genotype for the new organism. It has all of its inter-cellular contents and organization. I think a more reasonalbe usage would be that nature is this cell and nurture would be what influences this cell and decendents throughout its lifetime.
Re:Nature versus Nurture? Add ‘Noise’ to the Debate by throwaway5466 on Tuesday March 24, 2020 @01:21PM (#22676549)
Both terms are meaningless in our current understanding of systems biology.