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Re:Substantial undocumented infection facilitates rapid diss... by perl4ever on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:21PM (#22659293)
My impression is that a new lethal virus is pretty much isomorphic to a macroscopic life form that becomes an invasive species. There's a period of time before it reaches a new equilibrium. But that adaptation always happens.

So, specifically in answer to your question, it seems obvious to me that "lethal characteristics" are context dependent, so they come from random chance when an organism (or virus) encounters a new environment that it can replicate in way easier.

Re:Substantial undocumented infection facilitates rapid diss... by rolph on Sunday March 22, 2020 @06:35PM (#22659400)
All charcteristics derived from genetic structure are random chance, all of them.

when a virus has infected a host, replicated, passed to a secondary host, then symptoms appear, then X occurs,

You have a situation where X has no influence on reproduction, replication or transmission, it just is not even on the same blackboard as that equation.

here is some suggested reading for you, not everyone understands evolution or natural selection very well so it is a bit of a TLDR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_evolution

Re:Substantial undocumented infection facilitates rapid diss... by perl4ever on Monday March 23, 2020 @08:53PM (#22670647)
"You have a situation where X has no influence on reproduction, replication or transmission"

It is true that a basic law of reality/nature is that causes must precede effects, so in a sense, I think I agree your statement is technically correct regarding the exact cycle you describe.

But when talking about evolution in a population, the cycle happens a huge number of times. So "X" will influence all of the instances of replication that in fact happen after it. It would be silly to talk about evolution in a context of one and only one reproduction event.

I don't think we are debating anything that has to do with specialist knowledge of viruses.