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Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by manthideaal on Saturday March 21, 2020 @07:12AM (#22645777)
I can't understand why one would use P in such a way that P = TP + FN, this is going to be a real mess.

Afortunately there is the following page in which they only use TP,FP, TN, FN that is true/false and positive/negative. So replace that page with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_and_recall or change notation. Please.

P = TP + FN is something that I would never put on paper.

Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by thaumasiotes on Saturday March 21, 2020 @07:30AM (#22645839)
What do you want to call the population of positives, if not P? What do you think the P in TP and FP refers to?

Also, why are you creating a chat thread on Hacker News with a plea to delete a page on Wikipedia?

Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by manthideaal on Saturday March 21, 2020 @07:38AM (#22645867)
TP + FN means true positives plus false negatives, that is the number of deseased people. P should be the number of people that gives positive in the test, since TP means true positive in that sense.

Also TP + FN = Prevalence of the desease, but using P for prevalence and for positive creates a lot of confusion in a wikipedia page to explain a concept.

My plea is that I don't want people to get confused. On top of it there is a warning on that page of wikipedia: This article may be too technical for most readers to understand. I couldn't understand why they used that notation. So I ask to delete that page because is going to confuse people.

Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by thaumasiotes on Saturday March 21, 2020 @08:05AM (#22645962)
> Also TP + FN = Prevalence of the d[i]sease, but using P for prevalence and for positive creates a lot of confusion

Nobody's using P for prevalence. It's being used for positive. Take a look at the table.

> that is the number of d[i]seased people

Yes, that is what "positive" means. (In the context of a test for disease.)

Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by Tomte on Saturday March 21, 2020 @07:53AM (#22645916)
That Wikipedia page has a corresponding "Talk" page. Go discuss it there.
Re:Delete HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_spec... by gus_massa on Saturday March 21, 2020 @07:21AM (#22645810)
It's not my area so I have to ask:

1) Is P=TP+FN the standard notation in the area?

2) Is that notation confusing to people outside the area?

3) How is TP+FP called in that area?