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Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by wolco on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:23AM (#22627208)
It stops the spread of the virus. If you did nothing 5% would die and worse those that have recovered have problems breathing (can't walk up stairs).

Life would come to a halt regardless.

Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by AntonStratiev on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:33AM (#22627283)
There is no indication that 5% of the population will die.

The Imperial College report finds that in a complete do-nothing scenario, 4 million Americans will die, which is only 1.2% of the population.

With some mitigation (isolation of the elderly, isolation of suspect cases and their families) that number is reduced to 2 million, only 0.6% of the total population. This is the approach we need to be pursuing, and it means reopening all schools and businesses right now, and directing and supporting the elderly to self-isolate. Massively ramping up our healthcare infrastructure and preparing for massive triage is also a good idea.

The alternative of complete suppression requires total shutdown for an estimated period of 18 months, until a vaccine is available. However, its worth nothing that vaccines for influenza (for reference) are only partially (50-70%) effective, and need to be renewed annually. So its likely that even in this total shutdown scenario, we are still looking at 1 million deaths - with immense and unprecedented economic and social impacts.

Keep in mind, that 2.8 million Americans die annually from all causes - 0.8%. Coronavirus might mean for example that a critically ill patient dies from cancer a week earlier than otherwise.

Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by beardedman on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:13PM (#22667612)
5% is very much an assumption of yours right now.

> those that have recovered have problems breathing (can't walk up stairs)

Source?

Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by beardedman on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:26AM (#22627235)
No offense, I know people who have recovered and none of them have any hint of anything afterwards.
Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by mtmail on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:30AM (#22627265)
"Some recovered patients may have reduced lung function" https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic... (HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22568100)
Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by wolco on Thursday March 19, 2020 @10:02AM (#22627559)
No offense taken. I kind of worry about this mindset generally. It isn't real unless I know someone who is in hospital. It gets real quickly when you get sick.
Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by beardedman on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:08PM (#22667539)
I didn't mean to be so "anecdotal" here. I do know people who are fine, I've read stories of people who are fine, the data shows most people will be fine - except that elderly age group & folks with seemingly compromised immune systems. There are exceptions of course. And it is very real, but I think people need to be cognisant of data when citing mortality rates & incidents.
Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by NikolaNovak on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:28AM (#22627242)
Anecdotes, Yay! :-)

No offense.

Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by beardedman on Monday March 23, 2020 @03:09PM (#22667555)
Nice.

No offense.

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Re:U.S. suspending visa services worldwide due to coronavirus by adrianN on Thursday March 19, 2020 @09:35AM (#22627311)
Please don't include personal attacks in your comments.