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Re:GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobiliz... by TomMckenny on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:18AM (#22624731)
There are a couple possible re-thinkings. The disturbing one is where it is noticed that we are essentially sacrificing a bit of the economy to reduce fatalities. So next time it is decided that company valuations are worth the extra deaths[1]

I submit that rethinking needs to be started early rather than late so the discussion isn't dominated by euphemisms for some very dark path.

[1] As we know, social isolation is to spread out the pace of acute cases so as not to overwhelm hospitals. But it obviously slows the economy considerably. The alternative would be to not to isolate, keeping businesses wide open and allow the medical system to be overwhelmed with its accompanying higher mortality rate.

Re:GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobiliz... by jacquesm on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:23AM (#22624754)
America has been on the dark path where lives are equated to money for a long time now. It will take something quite dramatic to shock the system to the point where people are willing to re-think it from the ground up. Maybe this is that shock. If not now, then probably never.
Re:GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobiliz... by namibj on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:40AM (#22624839)
Except that quality-adjusted life expectancy changes due to side effects of drugs are valued much more higher than people dying due to being too broke to get any non-ER-care for acute, but not yet emergency-posing illnesses. Even within the drug certification process there is an issue with relatively niche drugs wasting a lot on overly-extensive studies, if you calculate how many people would get how much benefit from getting/affording these niche drugs. IIRC there is about an order of magnitude higher weight on side-effect deaths compared to lack-of-medicine deaths for niche drugs.
Re:GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobiliz... by riffraff on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:27AM (#22624775)
to be fair, you can adopt europe/wuhan-style total lockdown but you could also adopt developed-asia-style mass tracing.

The latter seems to have been way more effective in containing the epidemic and less impactful on the economy.

So, there was third option which saves both people and economy, but it's probably politically unfeasible.

Re:GM’s CEO Offers to Make Ventilators in WWII-Style Mobiliz... by thu2111 on Thursday March 19, 2020 @01:09PM (#22629462)
It's too early to evaluate the tracing approach. The problem is what happens when other people come in from the outside. This is now a major problem in Beijing; not internal transmission but cases brought by arrivals.