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Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by spamalot159 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @11:37PM (#22613381)
This makes me feel gross. I know what they're doing is totally legal, but it just feels wrong in this circumstance.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by 1996 on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @12:10AM (#22613536)
As I said before, I want to see which jury will convict them for counterfeiting!

The manufacturer may threaten, huff and puff, but juries are filled with human, who will feel same same wrongness we do.

In theory, everybody cares about FDA certification and all the legal details like HIPPA and stuff.

In practice, when SHTF ie in a situation like 9/11, most humans beings seem to do the best they can with what they have.

No one should refuse to act just by fear of being sued for doing something, when inaction will guarantee the death of other human beings.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22590069

Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by adrianN on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @12:22AM (#22613596)
I'm not familiar with the Italian legal system, but I would be surprised if a patent dispute goes before a jury.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by anticensor on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:46AM (#22613975)
Italian criminal courts implement bench trial, not jury trial.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by sneak on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:05AM (#22613798)
IP laws are wrong in all circumstances. I don’t owe anyone money for singing a song, nor when I print a shape, nor when I photograph a painting, nor when I give a friend a book.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by hdjejdjd on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:21AM (#22613871)
Laws against homicide are wrong in all circumstances. Killing someone while defending myself against rape is not wrong.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by vincnetas on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:46AM (#22613977)
It is. I think this has something to do with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(law) or at least concept is similar. You cant intentionaly kill someone because he tries to rape you.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by tropo on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:58AM (#22614028)
That depends on where you live. In many places, the law doesn't punish victims for self-defense. You certainly can kill a person who is attacking you. In a few places, notably Texas, it is legal to kill a person to stop a theft or to recover stolen property, as long as there is no non-lethal way to do so.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by vincnetas on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @02:03AM (#22614048)
Yes i stand corrected. I had my country LT in mind. But as you self write “ as long as there is no non-lethal way to do so.” Same probabbly for rape. If guy trying to commit rape changes his mind just by seeing a gun, and stops, it would be illegal for you just to open fire and kill him.
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by tropo on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @02:37AM (#22614196)
Legal standards vary. In most of the USA, he probably could be shot.

In nearly all of the USA, he could be shot if he were in the victim's home. Most states do not have a duty to flee when in the home, and the attacker's continued presence is considered a threat. Only in Vermont and Washington, D.C. is there a duty to attempt to flee when in the home.

Outside the home, in most states he probably could be shot, at least if he weren't clearly departing. He can't just stay there being a threat. There is no duty for the victim to attempt to flee, even if outside the home.

An interesting case involves a purse snatcher in a Texas parking lot. A bystander pulled out a huge revolver with a laser sight, fired, and killed the purse snatcher to recover the purse. It was legal.

Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by rolph on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @01:56AM (#22614017)
depends on where you are
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by roywiggins on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @11:58PM (#22613482)
That's because it's deeply immoral!
Re:Manufacturer Threatens To Sue Volunteers who printed a valve by ChrisCinelli on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @02:15AM (#22614103)
Legal is a low standard. If something is legal to do does not mean it is ethical to do.

I guess they are not in consumer space and donate valves would not have any real return.