Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by nostromo on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:06PM
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Right. If our immune system didn't get better at fighting something, you would remain infected forever or die from it. Reference HIV as an example of a virus our immune system could not fight.
If anyone is getting better (and 98%+ of people are) it's because the immune system can effectively fight it.
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by __blockcipher__ on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @07:30PM
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Wow, I didn’t even think of it like that. That’s a great way to reason about it that makes it immediately clear. Thanks!
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by smaddox on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:46PM
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Or it could go dormant, like the herpes virus.
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by scotty79 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:50PM
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Maybe it's sort of survivor bias. Maybe antivirals don't weaken immunity but people who survived thanks to antivirals have innately such a weak immune response that they wouldn't have survived without them.
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by rv-de on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:46PM
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Huh? Antivirals just eliminate the virus before the immune system gets a chance to step in and build up immunity. How about that?
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by scotty79 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @06:53PM
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I don't think that's true. I don't think they give antivirals to people before they have fever.
And fever is one of the results of immune system working.
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by rv-de on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:26PM
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Sure, but the body still isn't done building up immunity.
Re:Japanese man tests positive for coronavirus again
by scotty79 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:37PM
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Miniscule amount of pathogen in the vaccine can give you full immunity. I think when you have fever your immune system was already exposed to enough of the virus to build full immunity for the future. Now it's just the case of whether you survive to enjoy your future immunity. And anti-virals just help you with that part.
I do wonder if recovery due to anti-virals prevents or weakens immunity, however.