Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by ps07 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @02:40AM
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I was looking at the temp and humidity of cities effected and most were in the under 20C 50% humidity band. Maybe sunny weather makes a diff given the vitamin D connection.
Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by feanaro on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @03:35AM
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Unfortunately, if you take a look at figure 3 in that paper, you'll see that correlation is extremely weak and the non-zero coefficients almost entirely driven by a single outlier.
I am really not sure why news organizations all around the world feel the need to debunk Vitamin C usage for novel coronavirus. For instance: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-... . Their conclusions all amount to: washing hands is better, you may get a tummy ache, and don't believe folk remedies.
Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:01PM
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Ah, sorry, yes, that's true. I didn't mean Vitamin C doesn't prevent Vitamin C deficiency.
Your second statement doesn't negate my claim that Vitamin C is essential for tissue repair. It absolutely is, but of course that's not all it's essential for, and I did hint at this in the bit you didn't quote.
Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by david_draco on Wednesday March 18, 2020 @04:26PM
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https://www.xkcd.com/882/
There are issues with significance. Everyone loves testing Vitamin C as a cure for X. Wake me up when follow-up studies from another group show an effect.
Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by majkinetor on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @01:35PM
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He was not off.
Vitamin C is probably the only well known anti-viral agent used by basically entire planet.
I suggest anybody to take several grams of C, in divided doses (mandatory) all the time, particularly now (also inform your elders). There is no downside to this, there can only be neutral or positive effects (to anybody jumping about oxalate levels, please stop your thoughts now).
Pauling also claimed you need to take bunch of other vitamins in his books - 25K IU A, 5K D etc... so he was not mistaken. If it was only about vitamin C, he would not call his medicine orthomolecular but probably ascorbatomolecular ... His claims on C were never tested (not in the doses he used, but using x10-x100 times lower doses). What happend then was not medicine, but politics.
Re:Study confirms vitamin D protects against colds and flu (...
by senectus1 on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @04:20AM
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would be interesting to see how really dark black people with high natural sun insulation are fairing. I mean its armchair biology but you could theorize that people with very dark black skin that work in office and dont see much sunlight would be more susceptible to the coldflu seasons...
I dont remember seeing anything like that, and one of my workmates from Kenya, who has been told that her Vit D levels are too low in winter (by her GP) and that she should go for walks at lunchtime to get them up a bit, doesn't seem to get especially hammered by the cold/flu season.
> One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 0.0383 and 0.0224, respectively.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10796569
Vitamin C deficiency makes you more susceptible to the cold and severe infections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16988135
Vitamin C has shown inhibitory effect in chickens for avian coronavirus.
https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701
Chinese are testing intravenous Vitamin C for treating COVID-19 with promising results for reducing cytokine-induced damage to the lungs.
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=2...
I am really not sure why news organizations all around the world feel the need to debunk Vitamin C usage for novel coronavirus. For instance: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/09/coronavirus-its-time-... . Their conclusions all amount to: washing hands is better, you may get a tummy ache, and don't believe folk remedies.
This means it is essential for tissue repair. Also the production of neurotransmitters / cell signalling molecules.
Of course it improves recovery and reduces severity of symptoms. Of course it won't prevent anything.
I can't understand how there is any dispute.
You are full of nonsence. Of course it prevents scurvy ffs.
> This means it is essential for tissue repair.
This totally doesn't mean that. Vitamin C is cofactor and resource. It is used in bunch of processes, only some of it are for repair.
Your second statement doesn't negate my claim that Vitamin C is essential for tissue repair. It absolutely is, but of course that's not all it's essential for, and I did hint at this in the bit you didn't quote.
A lot of people are magnesium deficient too. Magnesium is known essential in over 300 enzyme pathways.
Vitamin C is probably the only well known anti-viral agent used by basically entire planet.
I suggest anybody to take several grams of C, in divided doses (mandatory) all the time, particularly now (also inform your elders). There is no downside to this, there can only be neutral or positive effects (to anybody jumping about oxalate levels, please stop your thoughts now).
Pauling also claimed you need to take bunch of other vitamins in his books - 25K IU A, 5K D etc... so he was not mistaken. If it was only about vitamin C, he would not call his medicine orthomolecular but probably ascorbatomolecular ... His claims on C were never tested (not in the doses he used, but using x10-x100 times lower doses). What happend then was not medicine, but politics.
Also maybe invest in the skin cancer department.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/6571543.stm
I dont remember seeing anything like that, and one of my workmates from Kenya, who has been told that her Vit D levels are too low in winter (by her GP) and that she should go for walks at lunchtime to get them up a bit, doesn't seem to get especially hammered by the cold/flu season.
That is a anecdotal data pool of (1) though :-P