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Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by alkonaut on Monday March 16, 2020 @08:48PM (#22600204)
Massive public investment is going to be needed after this and money will be cheap. That high speed rail can hopefully be built.

Airplanes and pilots will also be a dime a dozen I suppose, but perhaps it will even put.

Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by AncientTree on Monday March 16, 2020 @11:06PM (#22601209)
High-speed rail is often slower and definitely more expensive than regular rail, if Europe is any guide.

Rail is best used for freight.

Autonomous busses and cars (electric) are the best long-term solution for travel.

The best approach is simply to enact a Carbon Tax and let the market figure it out.

We would be better off promoting mass-contraception to the developing world and halting land clearance in terms of massive targeted CO2 reductions.

Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by alkonaut on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @11:02AM (#22605498)
Good reliable rail is good. High speed rail is the only replacement for air travel though. If you have two large cities 3h by car apart, you can just barely beat that by flying (depending on how big the airport is and whether it's reasonable secureity e.g. come to airport 30min before departure or TSA style 2 hours before). A train is often longe than the highway.

You don't even necessarily need special high speed rail, just more rail makes it more high speed because you can mix slow and fast traffic (e.g. no-stop direct trains can run side by side with freight and services that makes 10 stops).

Speed doesn't have to come up so much to at least beat road traffic.

Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by Zigurd on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @08:03AM (#22604043)
China relies on rail, and a lot of high speed rail, to move their massive and increasingly mobile population. We no longer need to speculate on whether high speed passenger rail can substitute for a lot of air travel.

"...let the market figure it out" would work in a market that isn't already so strongly shaped by subsidies, regulations, and nationalist protectionism.

Autonomous vehicles will have a very large and currently underestimated impact on all kinds of other modes of transportation, but there is a wide range of expert views on when that will happen.

Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by azmodeus on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:15AM (#22603105)
Even slow trains are a good means of transport. I much prefer a train to buses and cars.

I think high speed rail could be potentially a game changer for the job market. In the UK if you could easily commute in from Birmingham or Newcastle then London salaries would be more accessible outside London.

Re:Global oil use heads for steepest annual contraction by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday March 17, 2020 @05:54AM (#22603317)
How can high-speed rail be slower than regular rail?