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Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by SheinhardtWigCo on Monday March 16, 2020 @05:10PM (#22597854)
Or hold and hedge by buying UVXY et al
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by trophycase on Monday March 16, 2020 @05:39PM (#22598201)
Do not buy and hold leveraged ETFs interday. Buy puts if you want.
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by lowdest on Monday March 16, 2020 @06:46PM (#22599004)
Good advice, but the IV on most puts makes them incredibly expensive right now. I prefer shorting the 3x long etfs.
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by kibibyte on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:22PM (#22599395)
I'm curious, why short the 3x long/bull etfs instead of going long on the 3x bear ETFs?
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by lowdest on Monday March 16, 2020 @10:12PM (#22600791)
Two reasons: leverage costs will drag the performance of the 3x to worse than 3x over time, and in big drops there's a chance that the 3x ETF may actually implode like the XIV ETN did a while back. Those work in your favor if you're short but may or may not be worth the cost of borrowing for your situation.
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by kibibyte on Monday March 16, 2020 @11:44PM (#22601430)
> in big drops there's a chance that the 3x ETF may actually implode

Huh, I didn't consider this possibility because I can't imagine the underlying index (this one's related to the S&P 500) going up enough for that to happen. But then again, I suppose those speculating in XIV didn't expect those volatility spikes either.

For me, though, I figure the downside is capped for the relatively small amount of money I put into this 3x inverse ETF: if the fund goes all the way to $0, then I've only lost the original investment. (But also, if it goes to $0, that's probably a good thing for the rest of my portfolio.)

Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by TheGrassyKnoll on Monday March 16, 2020 @07:11PM (#22599277)
There's always TVIX for the casino minded players:

  https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/tvix?ltr=1
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by submeta on Monday March 16, 2020 @05:21PM (#22598006)
UVXY?
Re:Dow Falls 2997 points worst drop since 1987 crash by gruez on Monday March 16, 2020 @05:28PM (#22598087)