CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off

Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by pdonis on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:00PM (#22588982)

> As I see it, you have a choice between three options.

You left out a fourth option:

4. People exercise common sense and take precautions on their own initiative to minimize their risk.

You don't have to wait for the government to tell you what to do.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by yongjik on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:23PM (#22589148)

People are hoarding toilet papers and you expect them to somehow channel knowledge through common sense and magically understand which places/activities to avoid?

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by pdonis on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:41PM (#22589260)

> People are hoarding toilet papers

Yes, this was the oddest thing I noticed while shopping for necessaries. Every single place I went to was totally cleaned out of toilet paper. Other paper products were depleted but not completely out, but TP--nada. I don't get it.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by D2187645 on Sunday March 15, 2020 @11:40PM (#22589640)

Its a symptom of those who have the virus, a intense need to collect toilet paper.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by friendlybus on Monday March 16, 2020 @02:25AM (#22590488)

We can pinpoint the start of a virus in Wuhan China, and a global supply chain of toilet paper by competent western companies, with accountability and regulations to follow cannot supply a single reason why there is no TP. It's a joke.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by JamesBarney on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:25PM (#22589159)

A lot of countries thought they were taking that option like Italy, Spain, the UK, and the US. But eventually, Italy and Spain realized that there was no option 4 and they'd msitaken chosen option 3 so they switched to option 1.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by pdonis on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:46PM (#22589284)

> A lot of countries thought they were taking that option

At least in the US, I think it's too early to tell what the outcome of that option is.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by JamesBarney on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:56PM (#22589349)

Yeah, the issue is that the long lag time between infection and hospitalization combined with short doubling times means what once we order a lockdown it could get 20x worse before it gets better.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by eropple on Sunday March 15, 2020 @11:36PM (#22589602)

The die was cast well over a year ago, but the exponential function had us proper fucked a week ago.

We are not solving this through cleverness anymore, if it was ever on the table.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by ceejayoz on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:24PM (#22589157)

Ah, yes, the "people will magically stop being people" approach.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by pdonis on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:44PM (#22589269)

All the people I know are taking common sense precautions (including my wife and me). Do you know a lot of people who aren't?

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by mnm1 on Sunday March 15, 2020 @11:41PM (#22589644)

I do. A shit ton. Most people I've talked to, in fact. Not that it matters who you or I know. Option 4 is the same as option 3: do nothing like the UK. People will act in what they perceive is their own self interest. For most people, that does not align with what's good for society. It's too late for mass testing. There's only one option: lock down.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by ceejayoz on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:55PM (#22589342)

I'm taking common sense precautions.

There are parents at my kids' schools rolling their eyes and planning playdates. The local ski hill closed and people are complaining falsely "it's less lethal than the flu". There are people filling bars all over the country.

It doesn't take all that many of these people to flood the hospital ICUs - which already run pretty full in normal times - well beyond capacity.

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by acdha on Sunday March 15, 2020 @10:18PM (#22589110)

You can look around to see how realistic that fantasy is. People are notoriously bad at risk assessment and in many cases the costs are borne by other people: those healthy 25 year olds hitting the bars all weekend probably don’t have much to worry about, but that’s almost certainly not true for everyone they cross paths with during the period where they’d be contagious.

This is exacerbated by the political angle: once a huge, well-funded and entrenched propaganda system picked this up, it became inevitable that there’d be a lot of people who will take inordinate amounts of personal risk because they think doing so is somehow sticking it to liberals. The latest NBC poll showed a stark partisan divide on even basic personal safety measures:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/sixty-percen...

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Re:CDC says U.S. gatherings of over 50 people should be put off by rsynnott on Sunday March 15, 2020 @11:47PM (#22589696)

That clearly isn’t happening, though.

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