Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by Taek on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:27PM
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It's estimated that as many as 20% of the infected are asymptomatic, including no fever. A lot of your suggestions would fail to contain the virus.
I do believe that widespread testing and tracing would be effective. Given that we don't yet have access to the scale of testing that is required to maintain public health, I think an immediate quarantine is the only way to save lives.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by treis on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:03PM
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>t's estimated that as many as 20% of the infected are asymptomatic, including no fever. A lot of your suggestions would fail to contain the virus.
We don't need to stop 100% of the transmissions. Right now, on average, an infected person will pass it on to 2-3 people. The goal is to get that to below 1 and eventually it will fizzle out.
I'm not quite sure what's so controversial about my post. It's what countries in Asia have done and they've all contained the spread.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by nightfly on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:32PM
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I've been trying for 3 weeks to get _a_ 8oz bottle of hand sanitizer. Good luck getting number 2 happening.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by kragen on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:36PM
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Manufacturing a hundred thousand 8-ounce bottles of hand sanitizer might be considerably easier than a hundred thousand times as difficult as getting a single one. I mean, have you tried distilling alcohol from fermented mash and mixing it with mucilage?
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by xorcist on Sunday March 15, 2020 @06:52PM
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Given the choice between hand sanitizer and soap, always go for the soap.
It is more effective against viruses.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by nightfly on Monday March 16, 2020 @04:54AM
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I wash with soap and water wherever I can. I want sanitizer for when I'm getting in the car after leaving stores and stuff.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by kn100 on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:50PM
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Do what I did. eBay isopropyl alcohol and some vegetable glycerin. Should cost you less than 10GBP per litre and mix at a 70/30 ratio.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by mrob on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:02PM
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30% glycerol seems very high. The WHO publishes recipes for hand sanitizers with only 1.45% glycerol by volume:
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by kragen on Sunday March 15, 2020 @05:37PM
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Glycerin is not a very good thickening agent for this purpose, but if it's the only one you're using, you're going to need more than 1.45% of it.
Re:Harvard epidemiologist: my colleagues assumed UK coronavi...
by lonelappde on Sunday March 15, 2020 @04:28PM
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If every place does temperature checks, how many will do it with a poor protocol that spreads virus?
It doesn't take that much to contain something like this. In no particular order:
(1) Temperature checks outside all major gathering places. Shops, subways, offices, etc. If you're running a fever you don't get in.
(2) Hand sanitizer at the entrance/exit of all major gathering places. Clean your hands before you go in and clean them when you come out. Don't clean them you don't get in.
(3) Wear masks everywhere in major gathering places. No mask, no entry.
(4) Widespread testing and contact tracing for those who have tested positive.
I agree that the West in general is handling this as dumb as possible. Shutting everything down is pointless if you don't use the respite to enact public health measures.