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Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by lm28469 on Friday March 13, 2020 @08:32AM (#22566724)
So the logic is that we shouldn't do anything because nothing has been done yet ?

Europe probably has the strictest car emissions laws (so strict manufacturers have to cheat to comply with it), and many of its country banned single use plastic bags, straws, &c.

Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by listsfrin on Friday March 13, 2020 @08:35AM (#22566733)
Maybe on paper they do. In reality you pay 20 Euro as bribe and you can get away with anything.
Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by lm28469 on Friday March 13, 2020 @08:59AM (#22566881)
You should look into VW's scandal and check how much they got fined. Last time I checked it was multiple billions. Something like 10%+ of their annual profit.

The only thing you might get away with is bribing a cop for a speeding ticket in some rural part of an eastern EU country. Anything else will eventually be discovered and you'll be fined accordingly.

I could understand your personal point of view if you live east of Poland though.

Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by listsfrin on Friday March 13, 2020 @09:43AM (#22567167)
I'm not sure what's so bad east of Poland but I'm not there.

However, as I said, with a small bribe you can take out any particle filter here. It's common knowledge.

Besides that, did those VW cars got banned from the streets? No! Does VW pay for my health issues? No! Those money are normal taxes to conduct business in Europe.

Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by lm28469 on Friday March 13, 2020 @09:53AM (#22567235)
> I'm not sure what's so bad east of Poland but I'm not there

It's known for being a bit less strict and a bit more corrupt than the west. At least from what I gathered from my bulgarian, polish and greek friends and from my own experience over there.

Idk where you live but in France we have mandatory vehicle inspections every 2 years and you definitely can't bribe these guys. You'll get fined if you get caught, like everything else. How else would it work, we can't have daily inspections on every single thing that could potentially be made illegal.

I agree with your last point though, but that's the german auto mafia, these guys get away with a lot.

Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by ahartmetz on Friday March 13, 2020 @12:14PM (#22568463)
> that's the german auto mafia, these guys get away with a lot

Like the most important industries in most countries of the world, sadly.

Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by listsfrin on Friday March 13, 2020 @10:17AM (#22567389)
We have yearly car inspections ;)
Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by eeZah7Ux on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:41AM (#22568115)
"people are corrupted therefore europe bad"
Re:Europe Wants a ‘Right to Repair’ Smartphones and Gadgets by listsfrin on Friday March 13, 2020 @12:07PM (#22568394)
The laws are nothing if they are not enforced.