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The same is true for rich people: you can afford to buy in bulk, to take advantage of special promotions. And sometimes, even when spending more money on products one gets to have better quality on the long run.

> All said covid is >7x as deadly as seasonal flu and you have more deaths with no comorbidities.

You have some studies proving this? Because all the studies I have read flu is a lot more dangerous. For all ages.

While I agree that some people need to create models, it is very important to understand that not everyone is able to create them. For example journalists should not be able to create such models, they lack the knowledge.

Everybody is creating "models". How about asking the doctors? Don't they have some trustworthy studies in the three months that have passed?

Let's skip Facebook and Twitter and analyse the data that we have. What does it tell us?

When I was in med school you didn't die because of the flu. People died because they had diabetes or HTA which got some complications like low immunity, a failing kidney and so on.

Did these things change in current medicine?

You are missing the market here. If you pay Canadians high wages and you set high prices for fruits you cannot sell them in poor countries. And this means that the profits for that Canadian corporation will be cut in half. And the rich people at the top will suffer.

In the mean time poor countries will start planting their own trees with their own people and appropriate prices for their country. And Mexico will have their own corporation making money.

You can't grow 1 ha of tomatoes and go sell them them to supermarkets. They want stability of hundreds of kilograms every day.

You are building the world around your arguments. You have no proof but still talk, talk, talk.

In normal times Italy has a death rate of 10 deaths/1000 people. Which translates to ~1500 daily for a population of 60 millions. What were they doing previously with the dead?

People seem like computers these days: they only think in logarithms, they "forget" to add some common sense.

The classic fake news model: post some shit with no evidence that is immediately validated by some other worried internet person.

The deaths were always real. Putting the whole planet on hold because some 80 years old with three associated illnesses died is a bit borderline SF and a bit borderline stupid.

You made me curios about it so I did a quick internet search for what is considered high blood pressure in Italy.

I found https://www.epicentro.iss.it/ben/2002/settembre02/2_en (the same health institute that provided the study I was talking about above). I quote:

"The prevalence of borderline hypertension was calculated by determining the number of persons who had systolic pressures between 140 and 160 mm Hg or who had diastolic pressures between 90 and 95 mm Hg."

This is more inline with what I've been thought in med school in my time.

When I studied medicine 15 years ago 130-139 mm Hg was not considered high blood pressure. We were young students and we were toying everyday measuring our blood pressure. Most males had over 130.

It seems times are changing: https://www.cdc.gov/bloodpressure/facts.htm

We have "evolved"!

There is official health institute report from Italy: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-tho...

This is just a panic created on social media.

I don't think HN is the best place to ask for the moment. Speaking bad about the corona virus panic and the people creating it will get you many downvotes.

During the current crisis HN felt like a text-only Facebook.

Rest assured that the end of the month is near and with it all due bills and rent. Most people will beg to start working.

Quotes from link 1

> Sepsis was a common complication, which might be directly caused by SARS-CoV-2 infection, but further research is needed to investigate the pathogenesis of sepsis in COVID-19 illness.

> 91 (48%) patients had a comorbidity, with hypertension being the most common (58 [30%] patients), followed by diabetes (36 [19%] patients) and coronary heart disease (15 [8%] patients).

I've never seen studies that say anything about "permanent lung, kidney, and testicle damage, even in young and healthy patients". Where did you read this?

"young patients, the ICU rate is as high as 10%."

Any links?

Where did you read that people were "dying in the hallways of hospitals"?

This is nothing like the parent implied.

Do you have some links with reliable reports of young people getting sick and other cases you told?

We understand that currently it costs a lot more than $7 to produce insulin.

What do we understand from this?

If it's $7 to produce why there are no new companies that sell it for $100? They'd make quite some profit.

Most people move fast if they are paid accordingly.

There's lots of evidence that internet is cheap. Too bad we don't have those ISPs to provide it. Have you ever thought how hard it is to dig a 50m hole in the ground to put fiber in it?

It's a great time to increase prices if you ask me.

People with Thunderbird are not their target. They want the Outlook people.

The laws are nothing if they are not enforced.